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Andrew Founding member Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Well you only have to look at ITV News - Mary has been hosting the flagship show for nearly 20 years, which is almost unheard of. Tom is the only regular male host, with Rageh the only regular fill in, though there are a couple more they used occassionally like Chris Ship. I think Nina joined around 2005 when Mary went on maternity leave.


Trying to work out when Nicholas Owen replaced John Suchet on the Lunchtime News. John certainly remained with it initially after the shake up in Jan 2001 to accomodate the return of News at Ten, but ultimately became a relief presenter for Trevor, fronting the "News at When" editions of News at Ten and I think the Sunday night news, which in terms of viewers is often the highest rated of the week. It may have happened by the time the news channel rebranded in September 2002 - he was certainly working in the evenings when they had the News at Nine during the Iraq War. I think John must have left by 2004 though - have no memory of him in the Theatre of News.


As for Andrea Catherwood at some point her, James Mates and Bill Neely became the regular Weekend News presenters - I'd guess when Nicholas Owen moved to lunchtimes.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Nicholas moved to lunchtimes in 2002. Exactly when, I'm not sure.

In terms of John Suchet, he did actually make the transition to the Theatre of News set, albeit very briefly. I think he stepped down some time very shortly after the rebrand. Maybe March 2004? I remember recording his last bulletin somewhere. It was definitely in the new set.

Here he is in March 2004 hosting the ITV News at 10:30

https://youtu.be/kRrq-Ny5M5I
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Well you only have to look at ITV News - Mary has been hosting the flagship show for nearly 20 years, which is almost unheard of. Tom is the only regular male host, with Rageh the only regular fill in, though there are a couple more they used occassionally like Chris Ship. I think Nina joined around 2005 when Mary went on maternity leave.


Trying to work out when Nicholas Owen replaced John Suchet on the Lunchtime News. John certainly remained with it initially after the shake up in Jan 2001 to accomodate the return of News at Ten, but ultimately became a relief presenter for Trevor, fronting the "News at When" editions of News at Ten and I think the Sunday night news, which in terms of viewers is often the highest rated of the week. It may have happened by the time the news channel rebranded in September 2002 - he was certainly working in the evenings when they had the News at Nine during the Iraq War. I think John must have left by 2004 though - have no memory of him in the Theatre of News.


As for Andrea Catherwood at some point her, James Mates and Bill Neely became the regular Weekend News presenters - I'd guess when Nicholas Owen moved to lunchtimes.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Nicholas moved to lunchtimes in 2002. Exactly when, I'm not sure.

In terms of John Suchet, he did actually make the transition to the Theatre of News set, albeit very briefly. I think he stepped down some time very shortly after the rebrand. Maybe March 2004? I remember recording his last bulletin somewhere. It was definitely in the new set.

I'm guessing John Suchet may have officially left the Lunchtime News around the time Dermot left ITN and was replaced by Mark in mid-2002. I think initially Dermot and Kirsty were planned to be the primary stand ins for News at Ten but I think John ended up filling in quite regularly, with Nick on the Lunchtime News, so ultimately they just made it official.

Yes, a quick google suggests March 2004. Not sure what he may have hosted - I think Mark was announced as the fill in host on the 10.30pm news from the very beginning.

Still think Dermot is one of the biggest losses to ITN - he seemed to be in line to be Sir Trev's successor. He's still great on Sky, and Mark didn't really gel initially in the role, but the War in Iraq really came at the right time to establish him in the role as his reporter credentials really shined through.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Well you only have to look at ITV News - Mary has been hosting the flagship show for nearly 20 years, which is almost unheard of. Tom is the only regular male host, with Rageh the only regular fill in, though there are a couple more they used occassionally like Chris Ship. I think Nina joined around 2005 when Mary went on maternity leave.


Trying to work out when Nicholas Owen replaced John Suchet on the Lunchtime News. John certainly remained with it initially after the shake up in Jan 2001 to accomodate the return of News at Ten, but ultimately became a relief presenter for Trevor, fronting the "News at When" editions of News at Ten and I think the Sunday night news, which in terms of viewers is often the highest rated of the week. It may have happened by the time the news channel rebranded in September 2002 - he was certainly working in the evenings when they had the News at Nine during the Iraq War. I think John must have left by 2004 though - have no memory of him in the Theatre of News.


As for Andrea Catherwood at some point her, James Mates and Bill Neely became the regular Weekend News presenters - I'd guess when Nicholas Owen moved to lunchtimes.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Nicholas moved to lunchtimes in 2002. Exactly when, I'm not sure.

In terms of John Suchet, he did actually make the transition to the Theatre of News set, albeit very briefly. I think he stepped down some time very shortly after the rebrand. Maybe March 2004? I remember recording his last bulletin somewhere. It was definitely in the new set.

Here he is in March 2004 hosting the ITV News at 10:30

https://youtu.be/kRrq-Ny5M5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrq-Ny5M5I

God, I know it's easy to mock the theatre of news but the presentation back then was fantastic - and the integration with the regional news absolutely seemless. Even 21 years on at the BBC it still remains painfully awkward at times.
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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
Well you only have to look at ITV News - Mary has been hosting the flagship show for nearly 20 years, which is almost unheard of. Tom is the only regular male host, with Rageh the only regular fill in, though there are a couple more they used occassionally like Chris Ship. I think Nina joined around 2005 when Mary went on maternity leave.


Trying to work out when Nicholas Owen replaced John Suchet on the Lunchtime News. John certainly remained with it initially after the shake up in Jan 2001 to accomodate the return of News at Ten, but ultimately became a relief presenter for Trevor, fronting the "News at When" editions of News at Ten and I think the Sunday night news, which in terms of viewers is often the highest rated of the week. It may have happened by the time the news channel rebranded in September 2002 - he was certainly working in the evenings when they had the News at Nine during the Iraq War. I think John must have left by 2004 though - have no memory of him in the Theatre of News.


As for Andrea Catherwood at some point her, James Mates and Bill Neely became the regular Weekend News presenters - I'd guess when Nicholas Owen moved to lunchtimes.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Nicholas moved to lunchtimes in 2002. Exactly when, I'm not sure.

In terms of John Suchet, he did actually make the transition to the Theatre of News set, albeit very briefly. I think he stepped down some time very shortly after the rebrand. Maybe March 2004? I remember recording his last bulletin somewhere. It was definitely in the new set.

I'm guessing John Suchet may have officially left the Lunchtime News around the time Dermot left ITN and was replaced by Mark. I think initially Dermot and Kirsty were planned to be the primary stand ins for News at Ten but I think John ended up filling in quite regularly, with Nick on the Lunchtime News, so ultimately they just made it official.

Yes, a quick google suggests March 2004. Not sure what he may have hosted - I think Mark was announced as the fill in host on the 10.30pm news from the very beginning.

That would make sense then, as Dermot started on Breakfast in September 2002. So, Nick must have moved to lunchtimes and John stepped into filling in for Trevor on NAT. Along with his News Channel commitments. And Katie seemed to split her time between covering lunchtimes and evenings until she moved to London Tonight in 2004.

In terms of John in 2004 - he was still Trevor's deputy on the News at 10.30 until he left in March 2004. And he was also the regular Sunday weekend presenter. I think Mark then started deputising for Trevor and then eventually took it over once Trevor retired (for the first time) later in 2005.
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Ballyboy UTV Newsline
Wish they still had the regional opt out. John Suchet is a legend.
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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
If I'm not mistaken, I think Nicholas moved to lunchtimes in 2002. Exactly when, I'm not sure.

In terms of John Suchet, he did actually make the transition to the Theatre of News set, albeit very briefly. I think he stepped down some time very shortly after the rebrand. Maybe March 2004? I remember recording his last bulletin somewhere. It was definitely in the new set.

Here he is in March 2004 hosting the ITV News at 10:30

https://youtu.be/kRrq-Ny5M5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrq-Ny5M5I

God, I know it's easy to mock the theatre of news but the presentation back then was fantastic - and the integration with the regional news absolutely seemless. Even 21 years on at the BBC it still remains painfully awkward at times.

They really did have it nailed then, didn't they? I think the 2004-2006 branding was my favourite of that decade. For me, they ruined it in 2006 when they did a mini rebrand. The 2004 branding also worked seamlessly across the News Channel and Regional News. I think it was a notable high point for ITV News branding, with hindsight, probably only rivalled in the modern era by the current 2013-present branding. I could imagine that working seamlessly across a news channel if it existed now.
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Ballyboy UTV Newsline
If they brought back the 2004 look with the 2013 music and colour scheme national and regional I’d be happy. some guy did that on after effects that was phenomenal. tbh I wished they had the Big Ben on the endboard.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Thinking about it Mary must be getting quite close to Trevor in terms of her length of service (in a presenting role at least) at ITN.

Whether it's a good thing or not one thing you don't really have now at ITV News is a hierarchy. Tom doesn't have that kudos, and whilst News at Ten might be considered the flagship the Evening News is the higher rated bulletin, although the shortest of the day clocking in at 20 minutes or so compared to 27 minutes for the Lunchtime News and News at Ten. Julie very much did establish herself as the number one at ITV News IMO quite quickly after being poached from Sky, but that was somewhat diminished when she effectively became News at Ten's second presenter.
Last edited by Brekkie on 2 September 2020 12:00am
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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
Thinking about it has Mary must be getting quite close to Trevor in terms of her length of service (in a presenting role at least) at ITN.

Whether it's a good thing or not one thing you don't really have now at ITV News is a hierarchy. Tom doesn't have that kudos, and whilst News at Ten might be considered the flagship the Evening News is the higher rated bulletin, although the shortest of the day clocking in at 20 minutes or so compared to 27 minutes for the Lunchtime News and News at Ten. Julie very much did establish herself as the number one at ITV News IMO quite quickly after being poached from Sky, but that was somewhat diminished when she effectively became News at Ten's second presenter.

Yes, in terms of presenting teams the 2009-2015 line-up was really strong. Alastair/Katie/Nina at lunchtime, Alastair and Mary in the evening and Mark and Julie in the late evening. I don't feel it has ever been quite the same since 2015, Mary and Alastair being the notable exceptions.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Here he is in March 2004 hosting the ITV News at 10:30

https://youtu.be/kRrq-Ny5M5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrq-Ny5M5I

God, I know it's easy to mock the theatre of news but the presentation back then was fantastic - and the integration with the regional news absolutely seemless. Even 21 years on at the BBC it still remains painfully awkward at times.

They really did have it nailed then, didn't they? I think the 2004-2006 branding was my favourite of that decade. For me, they ruined it in 2006 when they did a mini rebrand. The 2004 branding also worked seamlessly across the News Channel and Regional News. I think it was a notable high point for ITV News branding, with hindsight, probably only rivalled in the modern era by the current 2013-present branding. I could imagine that working seamlessly across a news channel if it existed now.

Absolutely agree. I wasn't a fan of what they did in 2006 and although usually having a new corporate logo slapped onto existing branding can look awkward I think they could have got away with it. It improved when they aligned with the News at Ten look but always felt unfinished with their being no graphics and still using the opening clockface sting, which didn't really fit. If they'd tweaked the graphical elements of News at Ten at the time (they had some nice, fairly generic, stings) it would have just taken it up a level.


The car park will always be divisive here - for me it was an improvement on 2006-2009 and I liked it because it firstly, it was so different, and secondly for me it harked back to the yellow and grey branding of ITN in the 80s. However the regional news look was nowhere near as strong as the first generic package, or even the teal effort - but as you say the 2013 revamp improved everything across the board.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Thinking about it has Mary must be getting quite close to Trevor in terms of her length of service (in a presenting role at least) at ITN.

Whether it's a good thing or not one thing you don't really have now at ITV News is a hierarchy. Tom doesn't have that kudos, and whilst News at Ten might be considered the flagship the Evening News is the higher rated bulletin, although the shortest of the day clocking in at 20 minutes or so compared to 27 minutes for the Lunchtime News and News at Ten. Julie very much did establish herself as the number one at ITV News IMO quite quickly after being poached from Sky, but that was somewhat diminished when she effectively became News at Ten's second presenter.

Yes, in terms of presenting teams the 2009-2015 line-up was really strong. Alastair/Katie/Nina at lunchtime, Alastair and Mary in the evening and Mark and Julie in the late evening. I don't feel it has ever been quite the same since 2015, Mary and Alastair being the notable exceptions.

Yes, I really liked the "gang of five" approach to the two evening bulletins with Katie in that mix as well initially. A shame Julie didn't remain as a relief presenter on the Evening News as well when the Ten became single headed to maintain her profile somewhat.


P.S. Backing up to Kirsty Young and I think when she joined she did effectively replace Dermot as Trevor's main stand in on the Evening News (which I recall as being every Thursday - think that's when he did Tonight initially) - I guess that was part of the deal to entice her away from a higher salary and arguably higher profile role at 5 News to front the somewhat less sexy Lunchtime News on ITV.
Last edited by Brekkie on 1 September 2020 11:37pm
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cmthwtv West Country (East) Points West
I have to agree on earlier comments on the car park era being a vast improvement. The presentation could have been worked on, particularly the fact that the lead presenter stood miles away from the desk and other presenter making very awkward viewing, but the music, voiceover and presenter line up was on point.

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