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AlfieMulcahy Meridian (South East) South East Today



The clock face was able to produce the correct time of broadcast in the 1988 to 1992 era as far as I know - I think I remember an article where Alastair Burnet was interviewed about the new look of News at Ten in 1988 and the clock was mentioned. I only wish I had the interview to make sure.


Interesting they spent the time, effort and money to get a clock working like that. Shows how much attention to detail the graphics guys had at the time
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Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Most regions would be linking to NaT off the back of a clock, maybe that influenced their choice as going to an inaccurate clock would stick out like a sore thumb.
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Inspector Sands

They were including other times in the titles before it was computer generated - here's the News at Ten Thirteen from 1981.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoaLBraAlgk

That doesn't look computer generated, in 1981 the hands would have looked too harsh and not subtle enough for that slightly fuzzy shot of the clock.

I suspect there they just filmed the clock face for a while and made several versions.

The only other way to do it would be to use a
recording of the clock face and then somehow cut to it at the appropriate point in the titles with some sort of crash zoom vision mix wipe. Very easy these days but quite resource heavy and complicated in 1981. Even more unlikely of course: they had a live camera pointing at the clock
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radiolistener
More likely they had a slide showing certain times they could cut too. If they knew the time of starting that slide would already be set up to crash into.
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Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Even more unlikely of course: they had a live camera pointing at the clock


Is that unlikely? This is the era of cardboard graphics stuck in front of a camera. I know some pres departments had a set up where they could put other graphics in front of the station clock as required.

It's a complex sequence though as you say. It's it not likely that once the previous programme was on air and the on air time for NaT was known they would pre record it?
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Inspector Sands
Even more unlikely of course: they had a live camera pointing at the clock


Is that unlikely? This is the era of cardboard graphics stuck in front of a camera. I know some pres departments had a set up where they could put other graphics in front of the station clock as required.

That's a possibility I hadn't thought of - it's a real clock but not the real clock (in my early morning head I was thinking of a camera literally pointing at the clock tower). Or as radiolistener says it could well be just a photo of it. That seems the most likely.

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It's a complex sequence though as you say. It's it not likely that once the previous programme was on air and the on air time for NaT was known they would pre record it?

Yes they'd presumably have at least an ad break to sort it, whether that was finding the correct slide or moving some hands round.

Timing the crash zoom, if it was done live, is probably more difficult than getting the time right
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Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
In the back of my mind I seem to think I read that News at Ten used a second gallery at one point in time. If it was this era it might have made it possible to do that sequence live?
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Richard Granada North West Today
I remember hearing or reading somewhere years ago that the face was generated live by the same device that overlaid live football scores on the Saturday sports results service. Can’t find confirmation of this, however.

There was a time in later years when News at Ten was delayed several times of the course of a fortnight. Might have been to do with the USA World Cup. For each of those occasions (they were at different times), they shot video of the actual clock at the particular time. This was from ground level rather than above, as in the normal broadcasts of the time. They also edited the graphics to remove any references to News at Ten and Trevor didn’t mention it either, although the correspondents still did in their sign-off. Think they still had the bongs though - these were omitted in the early 80s edition shown above.

There were also a few occasions when the BBC’s Six O’Clock News was delayed due to the World Cup. On these occasions they used the closing sequence from the weekend early evening bulletin with the Six music. The only difference was the graphics (“BBC News” rather than “BBC Six O’Clock News”) although the text appearing didn’t really match the music.

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