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ITN News Channel vs News at Ten

Which would you rather have? (October 2007)

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BR
Brekkie
Simple question here - ITN News Channel vs News at Ten.


I'm not that bothered at all by the return of a news bulletin at the same time as another news bulletin - especially when that alternative is currently available 30 minutes later.


However, I think here in 2007 the reintroduction of ITN into the 24 hour news market would be much better for the industry if the ITN News Channel were to make it's own comeback.


So what do you think?


Also, a further more complex question. If ITN were to relaunch their 24 hours news channel under their brand, what would you think to ITV News dropping their own brand and their own bulletins and instead simulcasting bulletins from the ITN News Channel under the ITN brand?


And finally...

YouTube, iTunes, various mobile services...

Just how long will it take ITN to get an On-Demand news service running on the likes of Virgin Media and BT Vision?
BE
Ben Founding member
Are you really asking if the ITN name should return on screen?

I think it would be far better to focus on making one very good programme than attempting something that would require the same resources to be stretched further.
ST
Stuart
There isn't an option for neither!
JC
JCB
Both would be pointless. The 24hr news channel is already an over-crowded market - we don't need another one.
BR
Brekkie
JCB posted:
Both would be pointless. The 24hr news channel is already an over-crowded market - we don't need another one.


I don't see how two (dedicated UK) channels can be considered overcrowded?


Granted it's a tough market, but however many bulletins and websites ITN supply, I think they'll still be considered a third class news provider as long as they're out of the 24 hour news market.
BR
breakingnews
Brekkie Boy posted:
JCB posted:
Both would be pointless. The 24hr news channel is already an over-crowded market - we don't need another one.


I don't see how two (dedicated UK) channels can be considered overcrowded?


Granted it's a tough market, but however many bulletins and websites ITN supply, I think they'll still be considered a third class news provider as long as they're out of the 24 hour news market.


I would disagree. The ordinary viewer wouldn't notice things like that. ITV News or ITN have a history, I think they should remind viewers of that long history.
JC
JCB
Brekkie Boy posted:
JCB posted:
Both would be pointless. The 24hr news channel is already an over-crowded market - we don't need another one.


I don't see how two (dedicated UK) channels can be considered overcrowded?


Granted it's a tough market, but however many bulletins and websites ITN supply, I think they'll still be considered a third class news provider as long as they're out of the 24 hour news market.


They were considered a third class news provider when they were in the 24 hour news market.

Rolling news is covered. ITN didn't bring anything to the market last time and wouldn't now. So what the point?
BR
Brekkie
JCB posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
JCB posted:
Both would be pointless. The 24hr news channel is already an over-crowded market - we don't need another one.


I don't see how two (dedicated UK) channels can be considered overcrowded?


Granted it's a tough market, but however many bulletins and websites ITN supply, I think they'll still be considered a third class news provider as long as they're out of the 24 hour news market.


They were considered a third class news provider when they were in the 24 hour news market.

Rolling news is covered. ITN didn't bring anything to the market last time and wouldn't now. So what the point?



That's debateable. Sky News have adopted the 15minute bulletin strategy that ITN launched - while Alistair Stewart's ITV News Channel show was widely praised in the industry - and arguably led to Sky News overhaulling their schedules for more presenter led "appointment to view" programming.
JC
JCB
Brekkie Boy posted:
JCB posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
JCB posted:
Both would be pointless. The 24hr news channel is already an over-crowded market - we don't need another one.


I don't see how two (dedicated UK) channels can be considered overcrowded?


Granted it's a tough market, but however many bulletins and websites ITN supply, I think they'll still be considered a third class news provider as long as they're out of the 24 hour news market.


They were considered a third class news provider when they were in the 24 hour news market.

Rolling news is covered. ITN didn't bring anything to the market last time and wouldn't now. So what the point?



That's debateable. Sky News have adopted the 15minute bulletin strategy that ITN launched - while Alistair Stewart's ITV News Channel show was widely praised in the industry - and arguably led to Sky News overhaulling their schedules for more presenter led "appointment to view" programming.


News shows and channels are always nicking each others ideas regardless of whether they're good or not (and usually they're not). Plus I think you'll find it was Fox News that was the inspiration behind the disastrous presenter led appointment to view venture.
:-(
A former member
I thought it was CNN who essentially started it all. Headline News with the 15min news blocks, Larry King Live, Lou Dobbs etc. Although Fox News did take it to a whole new level.
ST
STV Today
onetrickpony posted:
I thought it was CNN who essentially started it all. Headline News with the 15min news blocks, Larry King Live, Lou Dobbs etc. Although Fox News did take it to a whole new level.


I do not think much has changed in today's TV land for a new 24 hr channel for the UK. I mean two is enough IMO.

Apart from the big big stories, such as 7/7 and 9/11, these rolling news channels are not that popular...especially when they adopt 15 minute repeats of stories for two hours.

Perhaps the are nearing the end of their natural - as I would have thought there would be plenty of ideas on what to fill a two hour slot on a news channel with. If they cannot do that - what hope is there?
BP
Bob Paisley
The ITN/ITV News Channel wasn't very good - because it didn't have a very big budget.

I've said this before on this forum and I'll say it again - 24 hour news isn't cheap. ITN just can't afford to run a channel that would be up to much. Nothing's changed now - News at Ten is a much more cost effective thing to do.

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