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ITN banned from Joanna Yates press conference

(January 2011)

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ST
stuartfanning
Wonder whether this whole investigation is a case of a provincial Police force way over its head, hence their sensitivity to criticism. I remember the days when specialist murder investigation officers were brought in from Scotland Yard for cases like this.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Gavin, I find it really hard to agree with that. Banning a national news organisation from a press conference regarding a high-profile, on-going police investigation, cannot be in anybody’s interests. I didn’t catch last night’s NAT report, so cannot really comment on the merits of the ‘expert’ used, nor the tone of the coverage, but according to the ITN press release quoted in The Guardian, Avon & Somerset Police were contacted for their response before the piece went to air, but apparently declined to do so.


http://www.itv.com/news/fullprogramme/?intcmp=NAV_NEWS5_FULLPROG4

Watch from 5'30" and then say what you think. It was pretty much this chap suggesting a complete dereliction of duty by the force with regard to the entire investigation.

Now, I don't know enough about any of the case to say either way - and even if I did it would be wrong to start bandying comments round; but to take a few "objections" this expert had in turn:

The police said there was "no sexual assault" but that there "might have been a sexual motive". The expert claims this is means they have "no idea" one way or another and are sending "mixed messages" to the public.

Well that's nonsense. An attempted or bungled rape doesn't necessarily result in a sexual assault, does it? But it may end up in the strangulation of the young woman.

He suggested that there was a failure in the force for not stopping passing drivers, but acknowledged that he didn't know if this had happened or not.

There's two things right there that were misleading and, well, hysterical. Didn't add anything to the newsgathering of the story, and in fact it seemed Gerraint's report was padded out with comment and guesswork for the sake of it.

If the police inspector feels that his squad and their work is being misrepresented, then he is within his rights to exclude such reporters from a conference. It doesn't mean they cant relay the material, just that he doesn't want them in his eyeline.

I don't think this is "dangerous", or does it "set a precedent".

Quite honestly if it makes ITV consider more carefully the kind of rent-a-quotes they put to air then I think that's not a bad thing to come out of it.

Most of you who have known me for years will know I am a champion of free speech - but that doesn't extend to airing invention by pseudo experts to make your p-poor news programme gain higher ratings.
TM
Telly Media
Thanks for the link Gavin.

I have to admit I’m not particularly impressed with the expert either, but in fairness to ITV News, there have been several high profile cases (in London anyway), where police investigations into serious crimes have been found to be seriously wanting (the John Worboys case for one). So it is entirely appropriate for a news organisation to question procedures and techniques, but that still does not justify ITV News’ exclusion from today’s press briefing in my opinion.

I could perhaps understand it more if certain newspapers had been excluded also, because as you suggest, some of the coverage in the red tops has been quite outrageous and sensationalist (although this has mainly been aimed at the suspect in the case rather than at police).

I still think that this move by Avon & Somerset has more to do with protecting officers from any awkward questions that Geraint Vincent (or Rupert Evelyn) may have wanted to ask, and I think the police should really be able to rise above this sort of sensitivity over criticism. Major national news media like ITN really shouldn't be being excluded from police press briefings like this - it reflects badly on the force.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Covered on the BBC News Channel, Mannion unchallenged phoned in taped comment, followed by Jon Sopel talking to Torin Douglas, about the issues involved.

It was a terrible report from ITN though.
MO
Moz
ITV News just getting worse and worse. Where is Qatar by the way? Not guitar, not gutter, but Qatar...
CH
chris
I'm struggling to find this report...the link above seems to have changed from News at Ten to ITV News at 1:30
JD
jdav
Agreed, this is outrageous! If the police have a genuine complaint then it should be made to Ofcom (I understand they have already lodged the complaint) and it will be investigated. Banning a large news organisation which supplies two public service broadcasters is unbelievable.


I think the Police should have the right to ban them if they want. Why should have Ofcom have powers above a Police matter?

Its about time the media in this country got kicked up the arse.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Moz posted:
ITV News just getting worse and worse. Where is Qatar by the way? Not guitar, not gutter, but Qatar...


What exactly do you mean, Moz?
:-(
A former member
Moz posted:
ITV News just getting worse and worse. Where is Qatar by the way? Not guitar, not gutter, but Qatar...


What exactly do you mean, Moz?


If my memory is correct they said that when explaining in a report where and what Qatar is.
WA
watchingtv
Moz posted:
ITV News just getting worse and worse. Where is Qatar by the way? Not guitar, not gutter, but Qatar...


What exactly do you mean, Moz?


If my memory is correct they said that when explaining in a report where and what Qatar is.


Yes, mocked by BBC's HIGNFY
http://youtu.be/q871D_5KSqI

& Russel Howards Good News
http://youtu.be/vtZIZ-tfGZo?hd=1
TM
Telly Media
Guardian as posted audio of David Mannion (ITV News Editor-in-Chief) being interviewed on BBC Radio this morning by Steve Hewlett:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/audio/2011/jan/05/david-mannion-itv-news?intcmp=239
ST
stuartfanning
As someone reported on another forum. This is not a first for A & S Police!

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=37897&sectioncode=1

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