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Headline Sequences

PRERECORDED? (August 2005)

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TW
Time Warp
I saw the ITV Lunchtime News earlier and noticed that a series of mistakes happened at the opening, such as Nina talking over the wrong part, repitition of what she had just said, cutting to the studio when they were talking to one another when Nina was v/o etc; now, this obviously has left ITV with a red face, and this my seen like a stupid thing to have not known, but have headline sequences always been recorded beforehand? And is this done across the board to prevent any mistakes from happening?
AN
Ant
Yeah, most news programmes have recorded openings. I know for sure Scotland Today does because one time we heard the title sequence but a live picture of the embaressed presenters.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
The ITV News intro sequences have been pre-recorded for some time. Most BBC News bulletins have live headline sequences. The only ones off the top of head that don't are some regional news programmes, and BBC4 News (2002-2004).
JO
Joshua
Just to say on many live reports on the Evening News after the presenter have said "Over to you" You can hear Nina or Mark talking,walking..IE: Before just after Nina said Over to you you heard her say its not that one and then walking up the walk for the end of the bulletin ...I find this very funny as you can hear what presenters really talk like without putting a serious voice on ! Laughing

And yes on the evening news openings are recorded as at first they have no papers but after the ITV News sting the presenters do have papers
TW
Time Warp
Is it so that they don't make cockups? I can really see no other logical reason as to why they would prerecord the beginning.

Does this mean that the regional sector in the sequence is the first part of the live show, as sometimes the regional anchors are cut off by Network whilst reading their headlines.
AJ
AJ
time_warp posted:
Is it so that they don't make cockups? I can really see no other logical reason as to why they would prerecord the beginning.


Yep - mainly to reduce cockups and to give the presenters that extra moment to prepare themselves.

AIUI Midlands Today is one BBC news programme which uses pre-recorded headlines at the top of the programme.
NW
nwtv2003
AJ posted:
AIUI Midlands Today is one BBC news programme which uses pre-recorded headlines at the top of the programme.


North West Tonight also pre-records the Headlines, this was obvious a few weeks ago when the tape played up. But saying that BBC Manchester has awful out of date equipment.
DA
DAS Founding member
If you think how relatively complicated a headline sequence is (they generally require a number of sources, mixing and fading of audio and picture) then it makes sense to pre-record. Looking at the Lunchtime News cockup today is interesting - it would seem they ran that pre-record twice as well as "losing" it among a whole stack of lined up video.
TW
Time Warp
ITV Lunchtime News Error

For those who didn't see it...(sorry I don't know how to convert MSWMM files to .wma format. )
MA
Marcus Founding member
DAS posted:
If you think how relatively complicated a headline sequence is (they generally require a number of sources, mixing and fading of audio and picture) then it makes sense to pre-record. Looking at the Lunchtime News cockup today is interesting - it would seem they ran that pre-record twice as well as "losing" it among a whole stack of lined up video.


Off course pre recodeing does mean you lose the ability to change them at the last minute. I have known News24 change the second headline, while the presenter is reading the first!
TE
teleonline Founding member
Meridian Tonight do.
NG
noggin Founding member
Antz posted:
Yeah, most news programmes have recorded openings.

Apart from the BBC One One, Six and Ten O'Clock News - where they are universally live - and only pre-recorded VERY occasionally.

It has always been one of the major differences between the ITV news bulletins and the BBC ones in production terms. ITV record their headlines usually, the BBC usually do theirs live.

Some BBC Regional programmes do completely record their headlines, and others pre-edit the visuals but voice them live.

Historically headlines were recorded either because they were too technically complex to do live, or needed a couple of attempts to get a clean recording.

I think Newsnight often record their opening, though they also do it live sometimes.

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