AM
Far to ITVish for me, to be honest.
Breakfast - moving towards the old style Breakfast Time look. So when does the name change back to Breakfast time with the wonderful opening titles????
National News at 1, 6 and 10 - sorry but it is far too ITVish and I don't like the ITV/Sky way of presenting the news (and this is from someone who is only 34!!!)
Overall VERY poor by BBC standards. (although like everything else it will stay and people WILL get used to it -
) Congratulations must go to both ITV and SKY and dumbing down news presentation and making BBC follow their path.
Breakfast - moving towards the old style Breakfast Time look. So when does the name change back to Breakfast time with the wonderful opening titles????
National News at 1, 6 and 10 - sorry but it is far too ITVish and I don't like the ITV/Sky way of presenting the news (and this is from someone who is only 34!!!)
Overall VERY poor by BBC standards. (although like everything else it will stay and people WILL get used to it -
) Congratulations must go to both ITV and SKY and dumbing down news presentation and making BBC follow their path.
TE
I kind of wondered if the backdrop, at least for the Ten, was a video loop. But I think it is just static backdrop, and what they have done is added the odd light on top of a building, and then just put it on and off to make it look as though it is a real window looking over London. If so, it works quite well, although I agree the reflection of the light boxes on the backdrop needs to be slightly less noticeable. But I wouldn't lose it all together because that is what makes it look more realistic.
MA
Is there ever anything positive in any of your posts?
Dunedin posted:
I could only grab about 5 minutes viewing of Breafast this morning and honestly thought they were sitting in front of cardboard.
The background looks TERRIBLE on the close-up shot, and somebody has monumentally f*cked up their measurements to get a join just inches away from the corner.
If that was my bathroom tiles, I'd expect the workmen to take them down and start again- it's an amateurish and frankly embarassing mistake.
The background looks TERRIBLE on the close-up shot, and somebody has monumentally f*cked up their measurements to get a join just inches away from the corner.
If that was my bathroom tiles, I'd expect the workmen to take them down and start again- it's an amateurish and frankly embarassing mistake.
Is there ever anything positive in any of your posts?
DU
Is there ever anything positive in any of your posts?
Yep- 10 looked very nice...because the night-time background hides the shoddy workmanship (come on, even you've got to admit that it shouldn't have to gone to air looking like this?)
Oh, and the News 24 set is simply stunning, and has been since it launched.
That positive enough for you?
marksi posted:
Dunedin posted:
I could only grab about 5 minutes viewing of Breafast this morning and honestly thought they were sitting in front of cardboard.
The background looks TERRIBLE on the close-up shot, and somebody has monumentally f*cked up their measurements to get a join just inches away from the corner.
If that was my bathroom tiles, I'd expect the workmen to take them down and start again- it's an amateurish and frankly embarassing mistake.
The background looks TERRIBLE on the close-up shot, and somebody has monumentally f*cked up their measurements to get a join just inches away from the corner.
If that was my bathroom tiles, I'd expect the workmen to take them down and start again- it's an amateurish and frankly embarassing mistake.
Is there ever anything positive in any of your posts?
Yep- 10 looked very nice...because the night-time background hides the shoddy workmanship (come on, even you've got to admit that it shouldn't have to gone to air looking like this?)
Oh, and the News 24 set is simply stunning, and has been since it launched.
That positive enough for you?
BB
I don't understand that making news presentation more visually interesting means that it's 'dumbing down'?! The 1 and 6 have been dumbed down for quite a few years now and there was no walking about before!
This latest style is just a way of making news presentation look fresher, and keeping viewers interest.
It is TELEvision after all, maybe you should just go back to your wireless.
amosc100 posted:
Congratulations must go to both ITV and SKY and dumbing down news presentation and making BBC follow their path.
I don't understand that making news presentation more visually interesting means that it's 'dumbing down'?! The 1 and 6 have been dumbed down for quite a few years now and there was no walking about before!
This latest style is just a way of making news presentation look fresher, and keeping viewers interest.
It is TELEvision after all, maybe you should just go back to your wireless.
AM
I don't understand that making news presentation more visually interesting means that it's 'dumbing down'?! The 1 and 6 have been dumbed down for quite a few years now and there was no walking about before!
This latest style is just a way of making news presentation look fresher, and keeping viewers interest.
It is TELEvision after all, maybe you should just go back to your wireless.
In MY opinion news is there to inform - yes have a good backdrop and make news understandable for the majority of tabloid paper viewers - but with this new look, along with Sky and ITV/ITN it is a case of who can outdo who with gimmicks, colour schemes, newswalls etc... News presentation should be simplistic and only use graphics when there is a real need (keeps astons etc... but needless graphics - far too gimmickery). Admittedly it was C5/ITN that first started the idea of a newscaster standing up presenting the news - to me its awful and never liked it.
BBriscoe posted:
amosc100 posted:
Congratulations must go to both ITV and SKY and dumbing down news presentation and making BBC follow their path.
I don't understand that making news presentation more visually interesting means that it's 'dumbing down'?! The 1 and 6 have been dumbed down for quite a few years now and there was no walking about before!
This latest style is just a way of making news presentation look fresher, and keeping viewers interest.
It is TELEvision after all, maybe you should just go back to your wireless.
In MY opinion news is there to inform - yes have a good backdrop and make news understandable for the majority of tabloid paper viewers - but with this new look, along with Sky and ITV/ITN it is a case of who can outdo who with gimmicks, colour schemes, newswalls etc... News presentation should be simplistic and only use graphics when there is a real need (keeps astons etc... but needless graphics - far too gimmickery). Admittedly it was C5/ITN that first started the idea of a newscaster standing up presenting the news - to me its awful and never liked it.
NS
I don't understand that making news presentation more visually interesting means that it's 'dumbing down'?! The 1 and 6 have been dumbed down for quite a few years now and there was no walking about before!
This latest style is just a way of making news presentation look fresher, and keeping viewers interest.
It is TELEvision after all, maybe you should just go back to your wireless.
This is a facinating debate - and probably one for another thread - but so many people - of all ages - seem to have it in built into them that unless the newsreader is a) slightly older b) sitting behind a desk c) if a man in a shirt and tie then it is being dummed down and not being taken seriously enough. I have been to focus groups where young-ish people have that view as well. They can't get away from that's how news should be and they can't look past that.
NickyS
Founding member
BBriscoe posted:
amosc100 posted:
Congratulations must go to both ITV and SKY and dumbing down news presentation and making BBC follow their path.
I don't understand that making news presentation more visually interesting means that it's 'dumbing down'?! The 1 and 6 have been dumbed down for quite a few years now and there was no walking about before!
This latest style is just a way of making news presentation look fresher, and keeping viewers interest.
It is TELEvision after all, maybe you should just go back to your wireless.
This is a facinating debate - and probably one for another thread - but so many people - of all ages - seem to have it in built into them that unless the newsreader is a) slightly older b) sitting behind a desk c) if a man in a shirt and tie then it is being dummed down and not being taken seriously enough. I have been to focus groups where young-ish people have that view as well. They can't get away from that's how news should be and they can't look past that.
TE
No matter what the 'few' issues about the studio are, it looked very impressive in the closing shot of the Ten.
JA
Since when was it Channel 5 who started the "standing up presenting" "gimmick" as you so call it?
IIRC it was Frank Bough in 1982, him and his hideous jumpers opened Breakfast time standing by the screen each day.
I'm not too fussed about the corners, I don't really care much about the corners, and I've got no time for the people who say it's VERY disappointing for the BBC... just what WERE you expecting? Sydney Opera House? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon, perhaps? Herds of wildebeasts sweeping majestically across the open plains?
Personally, I think they've done a fab job considering the space they've got to play with and all they really need to do is get rid of those flipping 'reflections'.
IIRC it was Frank Bough in 1982, him and his hideous jumpers opened Breakfast time standing by the screen each day.
I'm not too fussed about the corners, I don't really care much about the corners, and I've got no time for the people who say it's VERY disappointing for the BBC... just what WERE you expecting? Sydney Opera House? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon, perhaps? Herds of wildebeasts sweeping majestically across the open plains?
Personally, I think they've done a fab job considering the space they've got to play with and all they really need to do is get rid of those flipping 'reflections'.