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the great big BBC News studio shuffle

Studios now shuffled. (April 2006)

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CW
CentralWest
Durh me, but are all those panels rear-projection or vr?

National News looks good, very Central News 2001ish, which I like, but Breakfast yuck!
BA
Bail Moderator
CentralWest posted:
Durh me, but are all those panels rear-projection or vr?

National News looks good, very Central News 2001ish, which I like, but Breakfast yuck!

Er.. They're actual panels... lots of tiny LED's....
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
As I have said in the Breakfast thread, the new look for BBC news is completely abysmal and embarrasing really. The backdrop looks like it has been made out of Lego bricks (with the joints showing) and looks aesthetically revolting. Those marks on the floor look as though they couldn't even be bothered to keep the floor clean even for their first big day. The Box look looks sickly and the overall feel of the programme has bombed.

The BBC should bow their heads in shame. This, followed by an equally poor-looking weather forecast after each news bulletin, willl surely lose the BBC loyal viewers in the long run.

I have said my piece! I feel better now! Laughing
JW
JamesWorldNews
CentralWest posted:
Durh me, but are all those panels rear-projection or vr?

National News looks good, very Central News 2001ish, which I like, but Breakfast yuck!


Have to disagree. I think the new Breakfast looks excellent, and quite a departure from the reds of recent years. The new look is nice and fresh. I am less excited about the other bulletins looks so far.

A personal thing - I have always hated the pure circular desks, as you cannot get a lot of people around them and they always look kinda "painful" to angle-at.

The whole look would have been perfectly finished off IMO with a square-ish desk, similar to the one that Trevor McDonald used to have at ITN during the last election campaign.

New BBC News look feel factor = 8.5 out of 10 (my own inexperienced view). Well done to those who put it together.
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Juicy Joe posted:
As I have said in the Breakfast thread, the new look for BBC news is completely abysmal and embarrasing really. The backdrop looks like it has been made out of Lego bricks (with the joints showing) and looks aesthetically revolting. Those marks on the floor look as though they couldn't even be bothered to keep the floor clean even for their first big day. The Box look looks sickly and the overall feel of the programme has bombed.

The BBC should bow their heads in shame. This, followed by an equally poor-looking weather forecast after each news bulletin, willl surely lose the BBC loyal viewers in the long run.

I have said my piece! I feel better now! Laughing


I don't get this. Can you explain how a "box look looks sickly" ?
MO
Moz
Bail posted:
CentralWest posted:
Durh me, but are all those panels rear-projection or vr?

National News looks good, very Central News 2001ish, which I like, but Breakfast yuck!

Er.. They're actual panels... lots of tiny LED's....

I thought they were back projection panels. Like Sky's old newswall.
BR
Brekkie
I'm guessing this is where the changes are being talked about!


Firstly - Breakfast was much better than I was expecting. Loved the use of the set with the full length screens etc. - though the clouds background is a bit dodgy!


After Breakfast though I was a bit disapointed with the effort for the main bulletins. They do undoubtably look alot better - especially the astons - but the studio doesn't look as dramatic and some of the angles are a bit dodgy. With a great new studio it's a shame they didn't go beyond a cosmetic change!


On the whole though a thumbs up - I've always hated that old studio!
JO
Joshua
Overall I think the new studio is great.
Breakfast has a good set-up but it feels not as organised,the newswall screen shape is just like a rectangle and the studio has no shape like the last breakfast studio. When I first turned onto Breakfast this morning it was great, and i think its has potential but the bad thing was the blue clouds, the newswall at each end had the logo,the desk was a firey orange, and the sofa was a warming red..all welcoming and cosy colours when your waking up on a morning, then you see the blue which I thought brought out a coldish colour for the studio. The sunrise image should be used!
The grey floor is no problem for me, it goes with the set and on Breakfast, because of the lights of the desk and everything, some of the colour reflected on the floor which made it quite nice.

I dont really like the BBC News background though, I dont know London really, only the main attractions (Big ben, London eye etc) Why not use a image of that instead of buildings. Also with the background why is there cubes and lines in a grey colour all over the images (I dont mean the lines of the LED)

Overall the studio is very pleasing and much better than the old shoebox. Very pleasing Very Happy
NE
Newsroom
Breakfast: Looks half finished to be honest. Really don't understand why and when the presenters move to the sofa then back and so on. I watched the first hour, Sport came from desk in first half of the hour, then from sofa second half..............why? If they're going to use the desk as they did some years back for a more newsy feel - great, but back and forth leaves me wondering why..... The clouds are annoying - hardly any thought put into them at all......they fade in, fade out, no animation at all..... And the Breakfast branding right of Sian - what is the point, makes the whoile thing look....................odd!

Anyone else notice this?

As for the main bulletins - Great!
JO
Joshua
Anyone else think the desk is really little, I think its smaller than the last. You would have thought they would have one like BBC World and N24 shape Confused
I think the desk looks to little for the tray thing! Laughing

The background is horrible!
Example
http://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/images/bbcnews/misc/relaunch/thesix/01.JPG
TE
Telefis
Yet to see a full National broadcast so am not going to comment until then, esp re graphics.
Otherwise though, the new look for Breakfast and News has its good and bad points.

On the positive side of things I think the desk is stunning, if a liitle small as josh205 says – a magnificent piece of design, especially when orange on Breakfast. I’d remind you of those light-up yoyos you used to get in boxes of Frosties years ago Very Happy. The little coffee table equally so, including its sunken LCD monitor – very neat indeed.

http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/bbcnews2006/5.jpg

Similarly the grey theme (which is very much so this year’s colour in fashion circles apparently) is very smart and sophisticated, if perhaps a little dead and austere when used on the acres of flooring on both Breakfast and News.
The crisp lines everywhere are also nice and efficient.


On the downside - and I really don’t think this has been emphasised enough - the joins in the screen walls as previously highlighted, the corner in particular, are nothing short of shocking. Shocking because very simply this is the set – a set in its most basic and important form being the provision of a backdrop to the principal shots of presenters. If anything, you design this first and work everything else around it, especially for news-type programmes where the MS/MCU is so hugely critical. I couldn’t believe the BBC messed up so spectacularly on this front – the joins behind the principal two-shot, around which the entire production revolves, is frankly hideous. How this was passed off as acceptable I simply do not know.


Also as mentioned, straight away what strikes you is the practicality of the floor and the baking tray – how often are these going to be cleaned? Also three years of people clambering up over that raised edge is surely going to scuff and chip and hack away at the moulding?

Above all though, whilst I like the smartness of the new look, I am disappointed about the underlying concept at work here: the idea of a ‘room’ from which the news is broadcast. It’s okay for Breakfast as an almost contained programme in itself, but not National News.
News ought to be broadcast from a more generic, detached place in Televisionland, not a very obviously claustrophobic room in the BBC News Centre. The hard lines, suspended ceiling units, and distinctively walled boundaries generate a very blocky, overly-distracting room-like backdrop to the presentation of national news.

In my view if you’re going to go for the whole techno-ITV/Sky look, you simply need the space to be less claustrophobic and the technology less contrived, while the more traditional ‘quality materials’ approach can get away a lot more with smaller spaces.
I think this comes to the fore in the News MCU of presenter where the backdrop appears to be too close and ‘room-like’ if that makes any sense – it isn’t sufficiently subtle and detached from the newsreader. Also not a fan of the image design which looks rather harsh and washed out - might grow better over time.

http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/bbcnews2006/29.jpg

I shall wait to see a live broadcast though to form any full view on it.

Overall I think it’s an improvement on the previous look – doesn’t it look so dirty and cluttered now Very Happy

http://thetvroom.com/images-bbc-one-news/news-03/ten/end-1n2.jpg

…but the new look is perhaps a bit too commercial and ever so slightly dead for the BBC. I know everyone expects the BBC to be grand and conservative and familiar, but this is perhaps going a bit too far in the opposite direction.
JA
jamesmd
Well, I suppose it's good riddance to one part of this following picture, the other is just included for entertainment purposes:

http://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/images/natashakaplinsky/nk%20(01).JPG

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