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Discussion of coverage (August 2019)

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JK
JKDerry
I wonder if ITV will use the standard studio with Tom Bradby or similar at the centre of "election central"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqL_5KzrJQ

7.22 onwards

ITN have a problem with election studios, and the problem is space. They simply do not have the size of studios the BBC has, and so no doubt Studio 1 at ITN will be converted into their green screen election studio like before.
JA
james-2001
They should go back into the atrium like they did in 1997 and 2001.
JA
james-2001
it means Elstree Studio D is their election hub, and I think has done very well indeed since their first election night there in 2015.


2014 actually, they did that year's European elections from Elstree D. Of course usually those sorts of elections are usually done from smaller studios like N9 or at Millbank, but they did it from Elstree that year as a dry run for the general election the following year as it was new and had just been set up.
SC
Schwing
To pick up on the points made by Brekkie and Hatton Cross about studio availability... If you know a bit about how Parliament operates, you can narrow the possible dates for the next general election.

- There have to be 25 working days (five weeks) between the dissolution of Parliament and the general election itself.
- A campaign can be longer than five weeks. The 2017 election was seven weeks.
- Let’s use five to seven weeks as our ‘window’ so to speak.

October

Parliament will be prorogued by 12th September at the latest. If an election is called before prorogation, it will take place between 17th and the 31st October (five to seven weeks). To throw a spanner in the works, the European Council meets on 18th October so the likelihood of the election before that date is slim. The moment that an election is called the BBC will commandeer a studio to start building the set and rehearsing. That will be a logistical nightmare if it goes for one used by Strictly, Graham Norton etc.

So, let’s scratch October from our list and move on to the next.

November

Parliament reconvenes on 14th October. As it’s a new session, a Queen’s Speech will be held. That is - after all - the reason for prorogation (so we’ve been told). Parliament usually debates the Speech. This typically takes six days which would take us to 21st October. There’s nothing to stop an election being called on 14th October but, given the Government wanted a Queen’s Speech, it would be foolhardy to not do it properly (and may cost them at the ballot box).

Let’s assume then that the election is triggered on 21st October. The minimum five week period takes you to Monday 25th November. If the Government wanted to be ‘traditional’ and go to the polls on a Thursday… well, there’s only one Thursday left in November. It’s the 28th. That means that there are four days in October (21st - 24th) to conceivably call an election in November. Again, the moment that an election is called, the BBC will look for studio space and there’s the added headache of Children-in-Need in November.

A couple of things to bear in mind. First, If an election is triggered in October (21st - 24th) it will only be a five week campaign. Any longer and you’re in December. That risks disrupting Christmas arrangements and that would be political suicide. Secondly, there’s always the option of a vote of confidence. If a vote should be called and the Government loses, then there is a fourteen (calendar) day window for the Government or the Opposition to command the confidence of the House, otherwise it’s an election. The Opposition must be certain it can command the confidence of the House within those fourteen day if it calls a vote of confidence. If not, it’s an election. So fourteen days takes us to the 4th November, at which point Parliament dissolves and an election called for 9th December at the earliest and 23rd December at the latest.

December

So, let’s scratch November from our list and move on to the next. Which is December. Which is just plain stupid. I know. We’ve had three general elections in December before now but the last time was in 1923, so… let’s ignore December. Though some festive election idents would be quite nice…

2020

That takes us to… 2020 at which point Parliament won’t reconvene until 6th January, whereupon the earliest an election could be held would be 10th February. And of course the three-month extension to Article 50 runs out on 31st January so you can guarantee that there will be further discussions about delaying or extending (again).

Strange as it may seem, the window of opportunity for a general election this year is closing. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying that certain events have to take place in a certain order to make it happen. As I've said, the present coverage is missing a little bit of rational thought on these things. All this talk of elections and there may not be time for one.
Last edited by Schwing on 7 September 2019 12:26am
BR
Brekkie
The virtual results board has been one of the weakest parts of the ITV coverage since 2015 - just not that clear to see on screen and would be better done out of the main studio. I think though it is highly unlikely coverage as a whole would be outside the main studio - don't think it has been since 2001.
RK
Rkolsen
I wonder if ITV will use the standard studio with Tom Bradby or similar at the centre of "election central"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqL_5KzrJQ

7.22 onwards

ITN have a problem with election studios, and the problem is space. They simply do not have the size of studios the BBC has, and so no doubt Studio 1 at ITN will be converted into their green screen election studio like before.


I thought ITV while very minimalist in their presentation did very well (from what I remember) on election night. They had all the analysts needed and results called before the rest.
JO
Joe
Obviously not aware of the logistics of doing so, but the GMB studio would be pretty good for election coverage. Multiple areas, big screens etc. The screen behind the desk would be a great presentation device.

Bad Evening Britain
JW
JamesWorldNews
To pick up on the point made about the media failing to get to the root of this problem, I agree entirely and it is partly what led us to the outcome of the 2016 referendum. The modern media are far too concerned with creating entertaining news coverage whereby personalities are central to their coverage. They seem to think that a string of politicians and Westminster village types being paraded in front of the camera is enough.

I would argue that they really should be providing a great deal more contextual and analytical information. Although such reporting would probably be quite dull, it is vital to create an informed public. And in turn, an informed public leads to more responsible voting. Although the politicians are hugely to blame for their conduct over the past decade or so, probably from the expenses scandal onward, I don't think the media is entirely blameless in creating an uninformed and polarised populace.


Spot-on, Rob. That’s the point I was trying to make a few pages back. You did it far more justice and with eloquence, as ever.

The entire problem could be solved (media mediocrity) by having Schwing in our televisions.

I’ve learned far more (relatively concisely) from his last few posts here on TVF than I’ve actually done from 3 years of television “down on the Green”.

Having said that, there are a few television correspondents who do deserve credit too. I could count them all on one hand.

The others are there for entertainment value, as alluded by you.

So, when will you be appearing on QT, Schwing?
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MI
m_in_m
We are forgetting that there is also George Lucas Stage 1 at Elstree which could be used for large productions such as Children in Need. Stage 2 is used by Strictly next door.

Didn't CiN and Strictly use the same studios in the past - hence why the Blackpool weekend came about? In that case wouldn't CiN potentially use Stage 2 if necessary while Strictly head off to the seaside?
IS
Inspector Sands
That is how the Blackpool weekend came about, they both originally used TC1
NG
noggin Founding member
That is how the Blackpool weekend came about, they both originally used TC1


Yes - in the very early days Strictly's set was shoe-horned into TC4 when there was a studio clash ISTR, but once this became too much of a compromise a Blackpool show was introduced. (Once CiN moved to Elstree D, and Strictly was in Elstree George Lucas there was no longer a clash, so Blackpool became a tradition rather than an operational requirement to cope with studio capacity issues)
NG
noggin Founding member

Studio D at Elstree has the BBCs election hub and multiple connections of various forms to and from the control rooms and infrastructure at BH and elsewhere


Studio D and the Elstree Election Hub are separate operational areas and independent of each other.

When recent Local and European Election coverage came from a studio in New Broadcasting House, and didn't use Elstree Studio D for presentation, the Elstree Election Hub was still used to co-ordinate and route outside sources.

The Election hub and the Election studio don't need to be on the same site, but you do need them to both be in locations with good site-to-site connectivity.
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