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Discussion of coverage (August 2019)

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RK
Rkolsen
I remember reading that the cameras in the HoC are SD but apparently look better in HD. How is that possible are they HD cameras outputting a SD widescreen output? That’s the only thing I can think of why the pictures look so good.
MA
Markymark
I remember reading that the cameras in the HoC are SD but apparently look better in HD. How is that possible are they HD cameras outputting a SD widescreen output? That’s the only thing I can think of why the pictures look so good.


I think the cameras themselves are HD, it's the rest of the current infrastructure that's SD. The cameras are effectively providing an oversampled output
RK
Rkolsen
I remember reading that the cameras in the HoC are SD but apparently look better in HD. How is that possible are they HD cameras outputting a SD widescreen output? That’s the only thing I can think of why the pictures look so good.


I think the cameras themselves are HD, it's the rest of the current infrastructure that's SD. The cameras are effectively providing an oversampled output

That’s what I thought. I’m not sure but it appears only the ones facing the speaker (both close up and wide), opposite the speaker (where members bow where the mace is placed), and on opposite sides of the Table of the House.
MA
Markymark
I remember reading that the cameras in the HoC are SD but apparently look better in HD. How is that possible are they HD cameras outputting a SD widescreen output? That’s the only thing I can think of why the pictures look so good.


I think the cameras themselves are HD, it's the rest of the current infrastructure that's SD. The cameras are effectively providing an oversampled output

That’s what I thought. I’m not sure but it appears only the ones facing the speaker (both close up and wide), opposite the speaker (where members bow where the mace is placed), and on opposite sides of the Table of the House.


Yes, I've noticed the same, it's as if they are a higher grade, or taking a less tortuous route to air? I refer the honourable gentleman to a post I made in March mentioning it 😎
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Is it possible that ISO feeds of those cameras are made available to broadcasters? No doubt with strict rules about how they can be used.
BK
bkman1990
Anne McElvoy, who was one of Prime Time's guests at Westminster on RTÉ One last night, is now on OS on BBC News.
RK
Rkolsen

I think the cameras themselves are HD, it's the rest of the current infrastructure that's SD. The cameras are effectively providing an oversampled output

That’s what I thought. I’m not sure but it appears only the ones facing the speaker (both close up and wide), opposite the speaker (where members bow where the mace is placed), and on opposite sides of the Table of the House.


Yes, I've noticed the same, it's as if they are a higher grade, or taking a less tortuous route to air? I refer the honourable gentleman to a post I made in March mentioning it 😎

I refered to the honorable gentlemen’s posts made throughout March and have found no mention. Perhaps the honorable gentleman could provide a link.

(Also could this site have a better search functionality - such as by user, time, show post instead of thread. )
MA
Markymark
That’s what I thought. I’m not sure but it appears only the ones facing the speaker (both close up and wide), opposite the speaker (where members bow where the mace is placed), and on opposite sides of the Table of the House.


Yes, I've noticed the same, it's as if they are a higher grade, or taking a less tortuous route to air? I refer the honourable gentleman to a post I made in March mentioning it 😎

I refered to the honorable gentlemen’s posts made throughout March and have found no mention. Perhaps the honorable gentleman could provide a link.

(Also could this site have a better search functionality - such as by user, time, show post instead of thread. )


Well, I can't find it either! Never mind, this time round it's sparked more of a debate!
IS
Inspector Sands
Someone tried to explain the HD SD thing to me once and it didn't make much sense.

Something to do with the camera that provides the image of the clock in the chamber, which is what they cut to before coverage starts and whenever proceedings have to be suddenly stopped. Because there's an issue with making the HD, none of the others can be switched to HD yet

As you can tell I didn't quite get it
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member

Yes, I've noticed the same, it's as if they are a higher grade, or taking a less tortuous route to air? I refer the honourable gentleman to a post I made in March mentioning it 😎

I refered to the honorable gentlemen’s posts made throughout March and have found no mention. Perhaps the honorable gentleman could provide a link.

(Also could this site have a better search functionality - such as by user, time, show post instead of thread. )


Well, I can't find it either! Never mind, this time round it's sparked more of a debate!


https://tvforum.uk/forums/post1162739#post-1162739 seems to be the closest thing the honourable gentlemen are referring to.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Yes doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I just wonder whether the basic "world feed" of the Commons is produced using a very simple mixer - or even just a router?

There is no need for anything more ambitious than simple cuts, so no DVE or other facility to upscale the SD camera?

Or possibly the clock feed is inserted downstream of the mixer (under control of the House authorities perhaps) and it's the switching mechanism that can't cope with mixed resolution feeds?
RK
Rkolsen
Someone tried to explain the HD SD thing to me once and it didn't make much sense.

Something to do with the camera that provides the image of the clock in the chamber, which is what they cut to before coverage starts and whenever proceedings have to be suddenly stopped. Because there's an issue with making the HD, none of the others can be switched to HD yet

As you can tell I didn't quite get it

Okay, as a foreigner whats the clock? Is it just a camera showing a clock in the chamber to avoid anything else being shown? I'd assume its similar to the static cameras that are shown during votes in the US Senate and House of Representatives where during votes there's a static shot of the risers with the vote count being tallied on screen.

I only put this question here in this thread because it relates loosely to parliament.

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