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Goodbye Grampian TV

Countdown to merger or takeover (May 2006)

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brotherton sands
Barney Rubble posted:
a new name should have been chosen - not one that the central belt has called ITV since the day it started!!


But there's noting "central-belt specific" sounding about the name "STV" (or "Scottish TV", or whatever) - the name makes it sound like it serves ALL of Scotland. So, if anything, the complete reverse of what you're all saying is also true (i.e. STV/Scottish has never been a "regional sounding" name for the central belt).

It would obviously be geographically b*llocks to spread a north-specific word like "Grampian" southwards into the central belt (and, indeed, arguably the word "Grampian" is even irrelevent to a lot of its own patch). But, if we look at this with "Newsnight-esque" objectivity, rather than getting wrapped up in nostalgia/emotions etc, the "STV" name spreading northwards is certainly not "inappropriate" as such.

Yes, it might happen to be a name traditionally used only in the central belt, but it's not "out-of-place" sounding further north.
SI
simpfeld
Work of Artifice posted:
Barney Rubble posted:
a new name should have been chosen - not one that the central belt has called ITV since the day it started!!


But there's noting "central-belt specific" sounding about the name "STV" (or "Scottish TV", or whatever) - the name makes it sound like it serves ALL of Scotland. So, if anything, the complete reverse of what you're all saying is also true (i.e. STV/Scottish has never been a "regional sounding" name for the central belt).

It would obviously be geographically b*llocks to spread a north-specific word like "Grampian" southwards into the central belt (and, indeed, arguably the word "Grampian" is even irrelevent to a lot of its own patch). But, if we look at this with "Newsnight-esque" objectivity, rather than getting wrapped up in nostalgia/emotions etc, the "STV" name spreading northwards is certainly not "inappropriate" as such.

Yes, it might happen to be a name traditionally used only in the central belt, but it's not "out-of-place" sounding further north.


All this would be true if the STV name hadn't existed in central Scotland before. As it is in the mind of Grampianites, it's totally central Scotland specific (in fact it could hardly be more so).
ST
STVNews
Anyone notice pre-the mid morning news update on "stv north" she said now the latest ITV news and news from scotland today....It is becoming central scotland-specific already sadly. Although I do like the new look.
PB
PremiumBrand
I don't see what the fuss is about. From what I've seen today the only thing that has actually changed is the name - which is hardly the end of the world.

To be fair people in this region probably don't care about the name. For many the TV Channels are still 1,2,3 & 4 - always have and always will. I have never heard anyone say that Emmerdale is on Grampian tv tonight. Infact the only time I've heard Grampian mentioned is in regards to the news. But even then over time that has changed to North Tonight on 3.

I personally believe that half the people in this thread are from the original Scottish region or somewhere other than Grampian. All I can say is get over it. We don't care so long as we still get local news and we do.
AL
Allan100
PremiumBrand posted:


I personally believe that half the people in this thread are from the original Scottish region or somewhere other than Grampian. All I can say is get over it. We don't care so long as we still get local news and we do.


ha! that will soon change. central news east moved to birmingham and soon lost its original presenters to the former midlands today steve and sam. Soon central news at the weekends will be for the whole region and before long CNE will die no doubt.

your local news will go slowly but surly.
KK
Killie Kingdom
Allan100 posted:
your local news will go slowly but surly.


Oh no it won't mate! Rolling Eyes

The majority of us in Scotland are passionate about our local news in both territories i.e Scotland Today & North Tonight. If SMG was to do anything like that to either ST or NT - then we would be out in force to protest therefore ensuring that SMG would know exactly how we would feel about that. Mad

We would also be complaining to OFCOM for failing to ensure that SMG delivered top quality regional news bulletins Sad
BR
Barney Rubble
Jane Lewis Fan posted:
Allan100 posted:
your local news will go slowly but surly.


Oh no it won't mate! Rolling Eyes

The majority of us in Scotland are passionate about our local news in both territories i.e Scotland Today & North Tonight. If SMG was to do anything like that to either ST or NT - then we would be out in force to protest therefore ensuring that SMG would know exactly how we would feel about that. Mad

We would also be complaining to OFCOM for failing to ensure that SMG delivered top quality regional news bulletins Sad


I dont know if we would....they have just CLOSED Grampian and all with hardly any opposition at all - so I dont think that if (when)they merged both stations news output that many would bother to opose it.

They would just come out with some **** about "they need to serve a modern Scotland with multi cultural needs " - all pish but OFCOM seem to swallow it up!!
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brotherton sands
Surely the worst-case-scenario is that Aberdeen is demoted to "newgathering centre" status, and production/studio of NT moves to Glasgow (like Central News (East) etc).

But dropping the two seperate "SUB-regional" (as they now are) news services in favour of a single one, is EXTREMELY unlikely I'd have thought.

In fact, haven't we heard in this forum that more STV sub-regions will in fact be introduced?
BR
Barney Rubble
Work of Artifice posted:
Surely the worst-case-scenario is that Aberdeen is demoted to "newgathering centre" status, and production/studio of NT moves to Glasgow (like Central News (East) etc).

But dropping the two seperate "SUB-regional" (as they now are) news services in favour of a single one, is EXTREMELY unlikely I'd have thought.

Yes but these are just going to be part opt out services.....what will happen I think is that come time there will be one Scotland Today from Glasgow and it will opt out to the regions and Aberdeen will be a sub region.........it pains me to say this but that will happen.......nothing SMG do now surprises me Sad

In fact, haven't we heard in this forum that more STV sub-regions will in fact be introduced?
BR
Barney Rubble
Barney Rubble posted:
Work of Artifice posted:
Surely the worst-case-scenario is that Aberdeen is demoted to "newgathering centre" status, and production/studio of NT moves to Glasgow (like Central News (East) etc).

But dropping the two seperate "SUB-regional" (as they now are) news services in favour of a single one, is EXTREMELY unlikely I'd have thought.

Yes but these are just going to be part opt out services.....what will happen I think is that come time there will be one Scotland Today from Glasgow and it will opt out to the regions and Aberdeen will be a sub region.........it pains me to say this but that will happen.......nothing SMG do now surprises me Sad

In fact, haven't we heard in this forum that more STV sub-regions will in fact be introduced?


OOPPSS!!
Yes but these are just going to be part opt out services.....what will happen I think is that come time there will be one Scotland Today from Glasgow and it will opt out to the regions and Aberdeen will be a sub region.........it pains me to say this but that will happen.......nothing SMG do now surprises me Sad
RI
ricz2006
If anyone wants to go on strike about grampian tv been gone I bet that all north of scotland would and if not should. Mad i want grampian tv back. This new STV is rubbish and North tonight better stay as well.

My face is bovverd.
BS
brotherton sands
Barney Rubble posted:
Work of Artifice posted:
Surely the worst-case-scenario is that Aberdeen is demoted to "newgathering centre" status, and production/studio of NT moves to Glasgow (like Central News (East) etc).

But dropping the two seperate "SUB-regional" (as they now are) news services in favour of a single one, is EXTREMELY unlikely I'd have thought.

Yes but these are just going to be part opt out services.....what will happen I think is that come time there will be one Scotland Today from Glasgow and it will opt out to the regions and Aberdeen will be a sub region.........it pains me to say this but that will happen.......nothing SMG do now surprises me Sad

In fact, haven't we heard in this forum that more STV sub-regions will in fact be introduced?


OOPPSS!!
Yes but these are just going to be part opt out services.....what will happen I think is that come time there will be one Scotland Today from Glasgow and it will opt out to the regions and Aberdeen will be a sub region.........it pains me to say this but that will happen.......nothing SMG do now surprises me Sad


I'd imagine that even if most/all short bulletins did become pan-regional for the whole STV area, that there would at least be fully-seperate 6pm weekday programmes, rather than just a short opt-out therein.

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