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Good Evening Britain?

A Nationwide for ITV or a sneak attack on local news? (March 2018)

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DE
DE88
DE88 posted:
That wouldn't work either because of Holby City.


Yeah the whole 4m a week who watch that.....


Still a lot these days. And it still beats whatever's on ITV at the same time.
JK
JKDerry
I suspect the Good Evening Britain was a throwaway line in a bigger interview which the reporter/sub just picked up and developed. As a "wouldn't this be nice?" as opposed to a considered idea. Certainly, while ITV is doing perfectly well in the afternoon/early evening slot as it stands there's no reason to change.

On the logic that it happens in the US: a lot of other things happen in the US that don't work here. Late-night chat shows and, in fact, the original concept of Good Morning Britain (before Piers Morgan came in and it became personality-led). The US has a bigger audience to target, states which are equivalent to the size of Britain, so it's more viable to do stuff like local TV and local news because if you get x% of 35 million, say, that's going to be bigger than x% of five million.

As it stands, short of the likes of the long-debated Scottish Six, the current set-up is the best way of doing it. Some regions struggle to fill half an hour, London has never really quite worked out what to do with its local news, and The One Show can always be dropped or crashed into by those who need the extra time if needs be.

Mentioning London, remember it took the BBC until 1984 before they gave London and the South East a proper dedicated local news service. From 1959 until 1984 their local news output was always provided by the national presenters, especially during the Nationwide and Sixty Minutes eras. Even ITV didn't bother to cater for London news properly until 1977 with Thames News launched. So local news is not straight forward here as it is in the US.
LS
Lou Scannon
Mentioning London, remember it took the BBC until 1984 before they gave London and the South East a proper dedicated local news service.


If you can call a "region" that stretches from Ramsgate to Swindon "local"...

I will forever be astounded that it took the Beeb until post-2000 to see fit to break up the woefully un-local Newsroom South East "region".

Back on topic... If you look back over years/decades, there is no great tradition of the 5pm hour on ITV being fully occupied by a quiz/gameshow. There once was a time when the final 15-20 minutes of that hour was the national news! And the rest of it could be anything from a quiz (e.g. Blockbusters) to an imported soap (e.g. Home & Away or Shortland Street). Even the Children's ITV afternoon block in those days ran roughshod into the first 10 minutes of that hour. Didn't the short-lived revival of Crossroads in the noughties go out at either 5pm or 5:30pm?

So, there could potentially again be a time when *something* other than a 60-minute gameshow would be right for that slot. But, for as long as The Chase remains perennially popular, there is literally no reason to start "experimenting" with a total change of genre at 5pm. And, even if The Chase's popularity takes a sudden nosedive, would an "ITV's answer to The One Show" type of thing really be the right fit?
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Steve in Pudsey
There have been examples of regional magazine shows around that time, such as Yorkshire's Tonight, I think UTV had a similar strand there. I'm not sure that any of them did particularly well.
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Inspector Sands
Carlton had After 5 in that slot which lasted until the national news moved.

It was created because an hour-long London Tonight wasn't working at 6 so it became more newsy and became half hour at 6:30 and After 5 made up the missing half hour with a more lifestyle/showbiz programme presented by Fern Brittan
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A former member
She wasn't the only presenter. Im sure it also cover Carlton committed to local programming.

Anyways. West country had an hour news programme from 6-7pm and that lasted for most of the 90s. That had a one show type format...

Actully hour long news with other stuff isn't new and has been around since the 70s..... Thames, sourthen/tvs , atv/central, grampian even tyne tess all had them Espeical on Mondays and Fridays....
IS
Inspector Sands
She wasn't the only presenter. Im sure it also cover Carlton committed to local programming.

Well they promised an hour a night of a regional magazine show (London Tonight) and After 5 was half of that hour.

When Fern Briton left Caron Keating took over

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Anyways. West country had an hour news programme from 6-7pm and that lasted for most of the 90s. That had a one show type format...

Actully hour long news with other stuff isn't new and has been around since the 70s..... Thames, sourthen/tvs , atv/central, grampian even tyne tess all had them Espeical on Mondays and Fridays....

Yep, but as I mentioned a few pages ago it didn't work in every region. Both Thames and Carlton moved their news to 6:30 because there weren't enough viewers home in time for 6pm
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A former member
When Fern Briton left Caron Keating took over

Mary Nightingale was also a presenter of After 5.

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Yep, but as I mentioned a few pages ago it didn't work in every region. Both Thames and Carlton moved their news to 6:30 because there weren't enough viewers home in time for 6pm


So it was game of chesse trying to get the right viewers at the right slots, I wonder if there thought there would get more viewers for H&W at 6pm compared to 5.10. I wonder how Westcountry couped.
RA
radiolistener
3pm Quiz
4pm Quiz
5pm Good Evening Britain (incorporating Regional News at 6)
7pm Emmerdale

There's room in the schedule.

If you rotate the quizzes more might make things more interesting.
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Reece24
This might have already been mentioned/ suggested but...
When the Chase takes its annual break in May (if it does so this year?) - there would be a hours gap in the schedule. Just a thought
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A former member
No... The chase takes two breaks a year and it filled with other gameshows to see if it works
AN
Andrew Founding member
I suspect the Good Evening Britain was a throwaway line in a bigger interview which the reporter/sub just picked up and developed.

Yes I imagine the reporter mentioned Piers Morgan and the ongoing story that he is annoying, and Kate joked that maybe he should move to an evening version of the show.

That throwaway line in the current way journalism works results in a full story saying that ITV are about to launch Good Evening Britain.

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