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General Presentation/Logistics Questions

Who? How? Why? (March 2011)

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WW
WW Update
Moz posted:
Was just watching the BBC News at Ten, and I thought: why do main news programmes need anchors, and studios any more. Surely with modern technology it'd be possible for each story to be read by the reporter who's filed it, from where it's happening.

It'd make for a far more interesting programme too.

Opening shot: Jeremy Bowen in Tahir Square reading the first headline, into footage from earlier with him reading over that, then footage from the Leveson Inquiry with Peter Hunt reading that headline, etc etc.

Then each reporter would end his or her report with, for example, "Jeremy Bowen, BBC News, Cairo" and cut to the Peter Hunt live from outside the Royal Courts of Justice.

No need for an expensive studio, no need for an expensive Huw Edwards, just the reporters on the ground where the news is happening.


News anchors serve as recognizable "brands" for their broadcasters. They are the familiar "faces" -- both literal and figurative -- of otherwise sprawling and impersonal news organizations.

If you ask a person on the street to name a famous news person on the BBC, ITV, Sky News, Al Jazeera, CNN, CBS, ZDF, RTL, France 2, etc., chances are they will name an anchor rather than a reporter.

In other words, there is a reason why Huw Edwards is expensive. If his role could easily be eliminated, he would be earning far less.

(BTW, EuroNews has eliminated both anchors and on-air reporters -- and has never developed into a serious international news player.)

Also, jumping from reporter to reporter directly would be a logistical nightmare in case of breaking news and whenever things went differently than planned, which is quite frequently the case in TV news. For that matter, even regular editions of such newscasts would be difficult to produce without a center-point to bring it all together.

What some news organizations do is have several reporters introduce their stories at the top of the hour before the anchor takes over. That is often very effective.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The lack on anchors on EuroNews is simply because it's not practical to have them in vision because of the multiple language versions. Much more achievable if it's just a different voice-over for each language output, with a translation of any interviews/actuality in a different language.
WW
WW Update
The lack on anchors on EuroNews is simply because it's not practical to have them in vision because of the multiple language versions. Much more achievable if it's just a different voice-over for each language output, with a translation of any interviews/actuality in a different language.


I know, but this setup leaves EuroNews crippled and prevents it from becoming a major player in the field. France 24, for instance, also airs what are essentially three language feeds of the same format, but it features separate anchors and reporters, which allows it greater flexibility and a more personal approach.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
The lack on anchors on EuroNews is simply because it's not practical to have them in vision because of the multiple language versions. Much more achievable if it's just a different voice-over for each language output, with a translation of any interviews/actuality in a different language.


I know, but this setup leaves EuroNews crippled and prevents it from becoming a major player in the field. France 24, for instance, also airs what are essentially three language feeds of the same format, but it features separate anchors and reporters, which allows it greater flexibility and a more personal approach.


In fairness, though, France 24 isn't available in as many languages as EuroNews. For EuroNews to have separate anchors for each version the cost would be extremely large.
WW
WW Update
In fairness, though, France 24 isn't available in as many languages as EuroNews. For EuroNews to have separate anchors for each version the cost would be extremely large.


Very true. However, EuroNews isn't the bastion of European multilingualism that it's sometimes portrayed to be. It's funded by the European Commission, yet it broadcasts in only six EU languages (and a few non-EU languages). That's just six out of the 23 official EU languages -- not all that impressive, especially considering that these widely spoken languages are already served by other 24-hour news channels (and many of the EU's smaller languages are not).

I would argue that, more than this impractical, faux multilingualism, Europe needs a fully-fledged, pan-European, English-language news channel devoted to the issues affecting the continent (English being widely understood by educated viewers who watch such international news channels in the first place).
IT
itsrobert Founding member
In fairness, though, France 24 isn't available in as many languages as EuroNews. For EuroNews to have separate anchors for each version the cost would be extremely large.


Very true. However, EuroNews isn't the bastion of European multilingualism that it's sometimes portrayed to be. It's funded by the European Commission, yet it broadcasts in only six EU languages (and a few non-EU languages). That's just six out of the 23 official EU languages -- not all that impressive, especially considering that these widely spoken languages are already served by other 24-hour news channels (and many of the EU's smaller languages are not).

I would argue that, more than this impractical, faux multilingualism, Europe needs a fully-fledged, pan-European, English-language news channel devoted to the issues affecting the continent (English being widely understood by educated viewers who watch such international news channels in the first place).


I agree with you there. CNN is too heavily focussed on the USA; BBC World on Asia; and Al Jazeera on the Middle East. None of the major networks gives priority to European news on a regular basis and there is definitely a niche in the market. Maybe the answer might be for EuroNews to abandon multilingualism and broadcast solely in English with an onscreen presenter?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The lack on anchors on EuroNews is simply because it's not practical to have them in vision because of the multiple language versions. Much more achievable if it's just a different voice-over for each language output, with a translation of any interviews/actuality in a different language.


I know, but this setup leaves EuroNews crippled and prevents it from becoming a major player in the field. France 24, for instance, also airs what are essentially three language feeds of the same format, but it features separate anchors and reporters, which allows it greater flexibility and a more personal approach.


But one video channel with 6 sound tracks is cheaper to transmit and produce than three video channels?
WW
WW Update
But one video channel with 6 sound tracks is cheaper to transmit and produce than three video channels?


Yes, it is far cheaper but I would argue that this cheapness is also very apparent to viewers.
IS
Inspector Sands
The BBC Oxford Gallery was designed to work on two people - a director/vision mixer and a sound op who also calls up any camera moves via remote control pan/tilt heads. The 2225 is done with such staffing to this day (some regions now use just one operator in a pres gallery)

No producer?

As I say a short 5 minute bulletin is very different to a 2 hour local bulletin run by 2 people
NG
noggin Founding member
The BBC Oxford Gallery was designed to work on two people - a director/vision mixer and a sound op who also calls up any camera moves via remote control pan/tilt heads. The 2225 is done with such staffing to this day (some regions now use just one operator in a pres gallery)

No producer?

As I say a short 5 minute bulletin is very different to a 2 hour local bulletin run by 2 people


Don't know about regional short bulletins - but I can name at least two different BBC network TV bulletins where the presenter and producer are the only people involved for transmission (no director, vision mixer, VT op, prompt op, lighting/camera op etc.)...
NG
noggin Founding member
Moz posted:
Was just watching the BBC News at Ten, and I thought: why do main news programmes need anchors, and studios any more. Surely with modern technology it'd be possible for each story to be read by the reporter who's filed it, from where it's happening.

It'd make for a far more interesting programme too.

Opening shot: Jeremy Bowen in Tahir Square reading the first headline, into footage from earlier with him reading over that, then footage from the Leveson Inquiry with Peter Hunt reading that headline, etc etc.

Then each reporter would end his or her report with, for example, "Jeremy Bowen, BBC News, Cairo" and cut to the Peter Hunt live from outside the Royal Courts of Justice.

No need for an expensive studio, no need for an expensive Huw Edwards, just the reporters on the ground where the news is happening.


But how do you cover stories where there is no TV reporter, or TV facilities on the ground? Do you put a camera in the edit suite? What about stories where there are no pictures at all?
DE
deejay
The BBC Oxford Gallery was designed to work on two people - a director/vision mixer and a sound op who also calls up any camera moves via remote control pan/tilt heads. The 2225 is done with such staffing to this day (some regions now use just one operator in a pres gallery)

No producer?

As I say a short 5 minute bulletin is very different to a 2 hour local bulletin run by 2 people


Don't know about regional short bulletins - but I can name at least two different BBC network TV bulletins where the presenter and producer are the only people involved for transmission (no director, vision mixer, VT op, prompt op, lighting/camera op etc.)...


Regional short bulletins usually work with the presenter acting as the producer, the director relying on BigTed (or ENPS) for the timing and sometimes one other technical person doing sound (some regions dispense with a sound operator for the late and weekend bulletins, using a one-person suite to transmit everything). So the lowest staffing I know of these days is a tech op and a presenter. There was a time when a presenter could self-op the whole thing, but those were very short bulletins with few (if any) visual items other than presenter in-vision. I believe the last of these self-op desks in use was at BBC Leeds and used for Hull's late bulletin by Peter Levy et al before they moved Hull's studio to Hull itself.

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