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General Presentation/Logistics Questions

Who? How? Why? (March 2011)

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IS
Inspector Sands
Interesting article that kinda fits in this thread, all about caption/aston mistakes and how they happen. It's a bit American-centric but mostly relevant to UK news (for example I don't know anywhere that operates on a 2 person gallery except probably the most basic of news bulletins)

http://apple.copydesk.org/2011/11/11/so-whats-the-deal-with-all-those-typos-in-tv-graphics/
JW
JamesWorldNews
Interesting article that kinda fits in this thread, all about caption/aston mistakes and how they happen. It's a bit American-centric but mostly relevant to UK news (for example I don't know anywhere that operates on a 2 person gallery except probably the most basic of news bulletins)

http://apple.copydesk.org/2011/11/11/so-whats-the-deal-with-all-those-typos-in-tv-graphics/


It happens remarkably frequently. I saw a report on Newsnight two weeks ago by that well known anchor and correspondent, Lyce Doucet.
RT
rtl70
Interesting article that kinda fits in this thread, all about caption/aston mistakes and how they happen. It's a bit American-centric but mostly relevant to UK news (for example I don't know anywhere that operates on a 2 person gallery except probably the most basic of news bulletins)


The daytime summaries on BBC One and 60seconds on BBC Three have one person in the gallery - a producer, no technical staff.
IS
Inspector Sands
rtl70 posted:
Interesting article that kinda fits in this thread, all about caption/aston mistakes and how they happen. It's a bit American-centric but mostly relevant to UK news (for example I don't know anywhere that operates on a 2 person gallery except probably the most basic of news bulletins)


The daytime summaries on BBC One and 60seconds on BBC Three have one person in the gallery - a producer, no technical staff.


As I said: 'the most basic of news bulletins'!
DE
deejay
The BBC Oxford Gallery was designed to work on two people - a director/vision mixer and a sound op who also calls up any camera moves via remote control pan/tilt heads. The 2225 is done with such staffing to this day (some regions now use just one operator in a pres gallery), but there are usually three additional people at 1830 (a PA, a producer and a Technical Manager, who deals with lives, does the camera moves and also any graphics animates).

The Oxford gallery can work with only a director, with a simple sound mixer in circuit instead of the main desk, but this isn't done very often.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Leeds have a pres gallery, which seemed to cause them some grief for the Breakfast opts on Friday. Reading between the lines of various tweets my guess is that the opt switch decided not to play ball and wouldn't put the pres gallery in circuit or the standard back up of Hull (although post DSO that might not be the standard back up as there's no reason for Hull's output to come to Leeds routinely).

Eventually they decamped to the main gallery and the presenter had to keep quiet when they were in circuit, presumably as there was nobody to operate the sound desk her mic was live all the way through.
WE
Westy2
What do BBC Birmingham have for the Breakfast opts, seeing they use the main studio for all of the bulletins?

Do they have a separate one person operated desk/mixer, or is the main desk used?
MW
Mike W
What do BBC Birmingham have for the Breakfast opts, seeing they use the main studio for all of the bulletins?

Do they have a separate one person operated desk/mixer, or is the main desk used?


They have the smaller pres gallery at the end of the main gallery operated by one or two people. It's usually used for Inside Out and some local trails but is used for breakfast opts and 2225 opts.

I also believe it can be self-op if the need arose.
WE
Westy2
What do BBC Birmingham have for the Breakfast opts, seeing they use the main studio for all of the bulletins?

Do they have a separate one person operated desk/mixer, or is the main desk used?


They have the smaller pres gallery at the end of the main gallery operated by one or two people. It's usually used for Inside Out and some local trails but is used for breakfast opts and 2225 opts.

I also believe it can be self-op if the need arose.


By 'Self Op', do you mean Peter Levy style, where he did it all himself, because unless they moved a camera & the presenter into the gallery itself, that would still require one person plus the presenter?

(If it's 'Levy' style, who could do that at BBC Brum?)
MW
Mike W
What do BBC Birmingham have for the Breakfast opts, seeing they use the main studio for all of the bulletins?

Do they have a separate one person operated desk/mixer, or is the main desk used?


They have the smaller pres gallery at the end of the main gallery operated by one or two people. It's usually used for Inside Out and some local trails but is used for breakfast opts and 2225 opts.

I also believe it can be self-op if the need arose.


By 'Self Op', do you mean Peter Levy style, where he did it all himself, because unless they moved a camera & the presenter into the gallery itself, that would still require one person plus the presenter?

(If it's 'Levy' style, who could do that at BBC Brum?)


I think it's done through the laptop using some kind of strange internal system that just puts the Pres gallery in circuit, they choose camera, load scripts, read it as normal and then it relies on either them opting it back in or Network Recall pulling them back.
DE
deejay
What do BBC Birmingham have for the Breakfast opts, seeing they use the main studio for all of the bulletins?

Do they have a separate one person operated desk/mixer, or is the main desk used?


They have the smaller pres gallery at the end of the main gallery operated by one or two people. It's usually used for Inside Out and some local trails but is used for breakfast opts and 2225 opts.

I also believe it can be self-op if the need arose.


By 'Self Op', do you mean Peter Levy style, where he did it all himself, because unless they moved a camera & the presenter into the gallery itself, that would still require one person plus the presenter?

(If it's 'Levy' style, who could do that at BBC Brum?)


I think it's done through the laptop using some kind of strange internal system that just puts the Pres gallery in circuit, they choose camera, load scripts, read it as normal and then it relies on either them opting it back in or Network Recall pulling them back.


Network Recall was never used routinely at the ends of opts AFAIK, only ever in an emergency. It hasn't been in place since presentation moved to the Broadcast Centre either.
MO
Moz
Was just watching the BBC News at Ten, and I thought: why do main news programmes need anchors, and studios any more. Surely with modern technology it'd be possible for each story to be read by the reporter who's filed it, from where it's happening.

It'd make for a far more interesting programme too.

Opening shot: Jeremy Bowen in Tahir Square reading the first headline, into footage from earlier with him reading over that, then footage from the Leveson Inquiry with Peter Hunt reading that headline, etc etc.

Then each reporter would end his or her report with, for example, "Jeremy Bowen, BBC News, Cairo" and cut to the Peter Hunt live from outside the Royal Courts of Justice.

No need for an expensive studio, no need for an expensive Huw Edwards, just the reporters on the ground where the news is happening.

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