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Discussion/speculation/predictions (February 2010)

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NE
newsatten
I think the criticisms made of Alastair Stewart are completely unfair. I thought he was very professional. He was just what you want in a moderator - the viewer hardly knew he was there except for moving the debate forward or stopping one of the leaders talking. He was quite strict with the leaders when he needed to be and overall I think he did a great job.

I think David Dimbleby will be good as he has the experience of Question Time to bring to the programme. I don't know very much at all about Adam Boulton, so can't comment on him. However, I disagree that Jeremy Paxman or Andrew Marr would have been good alternatives. Both of them come across as a bit smug/arrogant and constantly interject during interviews. I concur that Huw Edwards would be a suitable BBC candidate.


I said last night the same sort of thing - some of the newspapers sites I read last night were giving a bit of a hard time , saying that he was shouting to much ect. But that's what he was there to do, to stop them going over their time.
BR
Brekkie
I know it's a presentation forum but who do people think are winning?

I feel Gordon Brown has got the better of David Cameron.


I personally thought Gordon Brown came out best of the three, which I'm surprised at. I thought Cameron would walk it. I thought Cameron was actually quite weak and I didn't buy into half of the LibDem policies. I thought Brown did come across as a man of substance and performed well given all the flack he gets in the media.


Both Cameron and Clegg seemed to fall back on their soundbites all the time - Cameron about the "13 years of Government" and Clegg about the other two parties doing a lot of talking the talk, but not taking the action.

One thing that I got out of the debate is it's simple an impossible task and in a 5-year parliament they could never tackle all the issues they say they want to tackle, especially when they're too busy spending time on the important issues like people downloading music!

Surely the best job in British Politics has to be the Leader of the Opposition - all you need to do is say the right things, but never have to back such ideas up by actually putting them into practicel


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/apr/16/leaders-debate-tv-ratings

Ratings for last night at the higher end of my expectation - 9.4m, though far lower than some of the crazy figures suggested yesterday. What surprises me most is how steady the audience was - pretty much between 9-10m throughout - I expected a fairly sharp fall throughout the programme.

Unless something dramatic happens I can't see the following debates beating that - Sky will be lucky to get close to 2m, while I'd predict around 8m for the BBC - it's head to head with Corrie for starters, and I'm thinking as the campaign goes on election fatigue will set in more and more.
NI
Nicky
I too am surprised to read that audience figures were comparitively steady throughout the debate. Only about two or so million were shed after the debate finished. It'll be very interesting to see whether or not these kinds of viewing figures will be matched with the next two debates - I also have doubts about the size of the Sky ratings, but perhaps the BBC debate will be the one to match ITV's figures.

I think the criticisms made of Alastair Stewart are completely unfair. I thought he was very professional. He was just what you want in a moderator - the viewer hardly knew he was there except for moving the debate forward or stopping one of the leaders talking. He was quite strict with the leaders when he needed to be and overall I think he did a great job.


I think the press has been totally unfair to Alastair Stewart from the day it was announced he'd be moderating this first debate. I know some people dislike his presenting style, but to suggest that he is unqualified to host this kind of programme as well as ITV's election night coverage is stupid - even if you find his demeanour on screen patronising. He's not just the face of a "teatime news bulletin" as the Guardian so eloquently put it: he's had a major role in all election (US and UK) and budget coverage since the mid-1980s and has reported on much of the big political stories in his time. Aside from this, he's a psephologist. In my opinion, he's more than equipped to be the face of ITV's political programming in the same way that Dimbleby and Boulton are the faces of their respective broadcaster's political programming. When it comes down to it, I'd rather watch someone who knows what they are talking about rather than a professional "actor" who can't fathom what's going on.
BR
Brekkie
I agree. He was much stricter than I thought he would be though, but the rules of the debate seemed to call for that. He just about got the balance right though in that he cut people off at the right time, not before they'd made their point - but not after they'd repeated the same point time and time again.
FR
frostat01
On the subject of sets, it was quite interesting playing the 'how many different ways can you redress the same regional set' game last night. It says a lot about ITV these days that I never even realised the late politics show was a regional programme until after it had started.

I'm not sure where London's lot were based (I obviously don't watch much from London so don't know their sets, I just catch bits of it now on ITV1 HD), but they seemed crammed round a tiny coffee table with some over cosy sofas rather than the usual London Tonight set. Reception room at ITN somewhere? Laughing



Sorry for the big image haven't been able to resize it.

Did the set look like this?
This set is the ITV Yorkshire Last Orders set although I have no idea where this studio is.
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LI
littlesmegger
I imagine the BBC and Sky will have lots of (actual) white, grey and chrome, with highlights and panels in the party colours, and lots of truss/pillars and perpex. I can't imagine either of them going "what have we got laying around we can use for this?" and chucking it up and pointing a couple of solar 250's at the wall for some detail. I think we should all be glad that ITV didn't discover a stash of red, blue and yellow neon in a cupboard.


I wouldn't be surprised to see the BBC dress their set with loads of LED bulbs that supposedly look great in HD... supposedly... Laughing
LO
Londoner

Did the set look like this?
This set is the ITV Yorkshire Last Orders set although I have no idea where this studio is.
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Yes, that's Millbank, as used for London's Late Debate
JW
JamesWorldNews
Noggin, fully agree with all of your comments (except one) above, so I won't waste anyone's time repeating them, as you've taken the words right out of my mouth.

The only disagreement - Alastair Stewart did a good job, IMO. The fact that he was hardly seen was surely the whole point of the role? In what way do you think he could have performed better and where was he poor?
BR
breakingnews
Alastair could of let the debates last longer but that wasn't his fault - I think they should reduce the number of questions from 8 to 5 or 6 next time around.

How did the news programmes perform last night? Sky must have of had a boost for the day given the ash news.
PE
Pete Founding member
Sorry for the big image haven't been able to resize it.


Choose the thumbail option in the upload service, it's available when you click the little [+] link
NE
newsatten
Alastair could of let the debates last longer but that wasn't his fault - I think they should reduce the number of questions from 8 to 5 or 6 next time around.

How did the news programmes perform last night? Sky must have of had a boost for the day given the ash news.


Some different figures quoted, but
6.8m for News at Ten apparently, although that might be the peak as it's reported on Media Guardian for News at Ten being 6m( 28%)
4.1m 19% for BBC News (22:00-22:35)
2.4m 19% QT
1.5m 11% Campaign 2010
ED
edmund
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