The Newsroom

GB News

A new TV news network chaired by Andrew Neil

MD
mdtauk London London
Fixed two missing words for you. Wink


Of course, there was the odd (in every sense of the word) self declared communist that showed up for some humiliation on This Week. It will be curious to see how many of the Far Left show up with the editors that get appointed to pick and book guests for this new channel.

For what its worth, my idea of the Right and Left extremes are sort of like this.

Dictatorship<<<<Communism<<<Socialism/Democracy<<Neo Liberalism>Free Markets>>Nationalism/Racism>>>>Murdering Minorities/Dictatorship/Fascism

Neo Liberalism mostly centred - and I am personally of the Social Democrat position
Last edited by mdtauk on 26 September 2020 12:57am
JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
With the horseshoe theory, you could argue the far left won't be too far off what the channel is aiming for. Look at what George Galloway's turning into these days.
JO
Jon Central (West) Midlands Today
I suspect the linear GB News channel, will effectively be seen as the engine that generates content for their social channels, where the majority of their content will ultimately be consumed.
MI
Michael
Have we established what the GB stands for? Great Britain (in which case I'm assuming they'll be ignoring Northern Ireland and the Democratic Federal European People's Republic of Kent), or Gammony Brexiteers?
MD
mdtauk London London
GB News could just be the trading or business name, with a different brand name used for the output.

I assume it is Great Britain, but I am not aware of any confirmation
BK
bkman1990 UTV Newsline
I remember seeing a Youtube clip of the BBC Daily Politics interview that Andrew Neil a few years ago did with Alex Jones of Infowars.

When Neil heard of the things from Alex Jones had his huge rant about immigration & Islam being a huge problem and the role of the mainstream media particularly with the BBC in the UK; Neil tended to blatantly ignore those statements from Jones instantly. Neil wasn't too kind to Jones either when the programme was finished.

Now that Andrew Neil is going to be the star of GB News, as soon as he leaves the BBC after the US Presidential Election coverage in November, I would find it quite bizzare, in these crazy times, that he could just glaringly accept to hear more opinions being said from people who follow far-right politics when it is the main show of the day coming from the likes of the Trump crew & when talking about other things like Brexit affecting the UK.

Now when he is doing a news programme on this new news channel; can he be told by the channels management team straight off the bat that he can just accept lots of far right opinions coming in from various people within that political sphere as he tries to adhere to the strict news broadcasting requirements from Ofcom in the UK? I know that Ofcom has had a lot of recent influence from the Tories in making the rules more strict for the BBC & the like. However; it wasn't being too kind to the likes of RT who had been ruled to have broken the terms of their UK Broadcasting licence on lots of occasions.
MD
mdtauk London London
I don't necessarily think Andrew Neil will be a Right leaning or a Hard Right leaning commentator, but that he clearly thinks that everyone is entitled to a platform to air their views, regardless of what those views are. And is of the belief that conservative voices are being dismissed, despite evidence to the contrary.

The description of the channel as right leaning come from those news outlets I labelled.

Andrew Neil on twitter comes across as of the Status Quo, praising Rupert Murdoch, a history editing/working for Murdoch papers, dismissive of modern Progressive "Woke" political discussions.

He also seems to be unequivocally pro armed forces, and unprepared to entertain people who point out perceived military mistakes or wrong doing.

A belief in all sides being equal, even when the language used offends intentionally and with malice.
DE
derek500 West Country (West) Points West
Andrew Neil
Have we established what the GB stands for? Great Britain (in which case I'm assuming they'll be ignoring Northern Ireland and the Democratic Federal European People's Republic of Kent), or Gammony Brexiteers?


Great British Bake Off, Britain's Got Talent, Good Morning Britain, Little Britain........
TheSebastian and Universal_r gave kudos
AN
all new Phil Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
JCB posted:
Times Radio is “right-leaning” but it’s a bit of a jump to suggest that means racists and hate speech are aired. I think people are (as always) equating right-leaning with hard/alt-right, when you could probably say the majority of the population are right-leaning.

FWIW I think the labelling of anyone who’s further to the right than Jeremy Corbyn as fascist / alt-right / hard right has been one of the most damaging things in politics and society over the past decade, and has only served to push people further to the extremes.


Agreed. It's amazing how wide the definition of racism is now compared to 20 years ago.


If you don't want to be labelled a racist then stop enabling them. You can't vote for a party with such an openly cruel, racist approach to immigration and citizenship then insist it's nothing to do with you when that party puts it's racist policies into action. Also, "they kept labeling me a racist so to prove them wrong I became a racist" is the stupidest theory ever.

This seems to be who GB News are really aiming for, the racists who don't think they are because they don't use the n word and the people who aren't homophobic but voted for Boris "tanked topped bum boys" Johnson because he tells it like it is.

Thanks for proving my point entirely.
DE
derek500 West Country (West) Points West
JCB posted:
Times Radio is “right-leaning” but it’s a bit of a jump to suggest that means racists and hate speech are aired. I think people are (as always) equating right-leaning with hard/alt-right, when you could probably say the majority of the population are right-leaning.

FWIW I think the labelling of anyone who’s further to the right than Jeremy Corbyn as fascist / alt-right / hard right has been one of the most damaging things in politics and society over the past decade, and has only served to push people further to the extremes.


Agreed. It's amazing how wide the definition of racism is now compared to 20 years ago.


If you don't want to be labelled a racist then stop enabling them. You can't vote for a party with such an openly cruel, racist approach to immigration and citizenship then insist it's nothing to do with you when that party puts it's racist policies into action. Also, "they kept labeling me a racist so to prove them wrong I became a racist" is the stupidest theory ever.

This seems to be who GB News are really aiming for, the racists who don't think they are because they don't use the n word and the people who aren't homophobic but voted for Boris "tanked topped bum boys" Johnson because he tells it like it is.


But you're confusing satire with an opinion. Where was the uproar when HIGNFY did the 'letterbox' joke, as did SpecSavers years before Johnson, but he's a racist for doing it, but they're not?
GO
gottago London London
JCB posted:
Times Radio is “right-leaning” but it’s a bit of a jump to suggest that means racists and hate speech are aired. I think people are (as always) equating right-leaning with hard/alt-right, when you could probably say the majority of the population are right-leaning.

FWIW I think the labelling of anyone who’s further to the right than Jeremy Corbyn as fascist / alt-right / hard right has been one of the most damaging things in politics and society over the past decade, and has only served to push people further to the extremes.


Agreed. It's amazing how wide the definition of racism is now compared to 20 years ago.


If you don't want to be labelled a racist then stop enabling them. You can't vote for a party with such an openly cruel, racist approach to immigration and citizenship then insist it's nothing to do with you when that party puts it's racist policies into action. Also, "they kept labeling me a racist so to prove them wrong I became a racist" is the stupidest theory ever.

This seems to be who GB News are really aiming for, the racists who don't think they are because they don't use the n word and the people who aren't homophobic but voted for Boris "tanked topped bum boys" Johnson because he tells it like it is.

Absolutely. And this audience are very much the sort complaining that their views barely register on the mainstream media and last night celebrated this channel as though it will finally see their opinion get a platform, which is of course total nonsense. It's never been easier to hear these views on TV, radio and online than in the last few years.
Night Thoughts, Ste and Jon gave kudos
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Its all fascinating stuff but i fear the mods may be watching and start wiping all the non tv press posts. If anyone wants to open a thread on Metropol then I'll be happy to join in

Certainly seeing that GB News are trying to market themselves not as a Fox News-style broadcaster, but one that brings 'balance'.


Its depends what's meant by "balance" If and I emphasise if (because we don't yet know for certain what GB News will actually look or sound like) that's the case then I think OFCOM will be watching them like a hawk:

5.9 Presenters and reporters (with the exception of news presenters and reporters in
news programmes), presenters of “personal view” or “authored” programmes
or items, and chairs of discussion programmes may express their own views on
matters of political or industrial controversy or matters relating to current public
policy. However, alternative viewpoints must be adequately represented either
in the programme, or in a series of programmes taken as a whole. Additionally,
presenters must not use the advantage of regular appearances to promote their
views in a way that compromises the requirement for due impartiality. Presenter
phone-ins must encourage and must not exclude alternative views.
(*)

So based on that rule let us assume that Neil appears as on a show. What role does he have? Is he a presenter or a proponent or a view? Will he be part of a round table discussion where he takes one side and an opposing guest takes the other or will he be a British Bill O' Reilly?

It will be interesting to see.

(*https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0014/132080/Broadcast-Code-Section-5.pdf

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