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Paris Terror Attacks Coverage

Discussing the Breaking coverage across the News channels and outlets (November 2015)

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Neil Miles




Channel 4 were due to show Come Dine With Me from 4-6.30 so easy enough to drop one of those for an extended news. I wonder if they'll show 2 one hour editions instead.
Last edited by Neil Miles on 14 November 2015 10:19am
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HarryB
So, Sky News has 3 of their presenters in Paris, Jannat, Jeremy and Kay. The BBC however, have sent Ben Brown
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lxflyer
Andrew posted:
lxflyer posted:
Andrew posted:
Surprised they didn't continue on BBC One. So far due to various circumstances there has been no extra coverage on BBC1 and actually less than we'd get normally. The opt out at 9:15 was badly done with BBC One missing the opt out point.

Breakfast has now finished entirely at 9:30, which is rare on a Saturday.


I'm not really sure that there would have been much to add at this stage by staying on BBC One - the basic tragic facts are known - it's not a moving story as such now - we've moved on to analysis and why.

If people want live updates they have the News Channel.


You assume people are fully all over the story though, particularly with the Friday night timing of the events. Many could be waking up and finding out for the first time.


This story broke at 21:00 last night - I'd find it difficult to believe that large numbers of people were waking up to it after 09:15 as a brand new news story.
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noggin Founding member
lxflyer posted:
Andrew posted:
lxflyer posted:
Andrew posted:
Surprised they didn't continue on BBC One. So far due to various circumstances there has been no extra coverage on BBC1 and actually less than we'd get normally. The opt out at 9:15 was badly done with BBC One missing the opt out point.

Breakfast has now finished entirely at 9:30, which is rare on a Saturday.


I'm not really sure that there would have been much to add at this stage by staying on BBC One - the basic tragic facts are known - it's not a moving story as such now - we've moved on to analysis and why.

If people want live updates they have the News Channel.


You assume people are fully all over the story though, particularly with the Friday night timing of the events. Many could be waking up and finding out for the first time.


This story broke at 21:00 last night - I'd find it difficult to believe that large numbers of people were waking up to it after 09:15 as a brand new news story.


I wouldn't. Not everyone in the UK is glued to the internet, or watches TV or listens to the radio all the time.
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lxflyer
HarryBNF posted:
So, Sky News has 3 of their presenters in Paris, Jannat, Jeremy and Kay. The BBC however, have sent Ben Brown


The BBC also have their three resident correspondents (Lucy Williamson, Hugh Schofield and David Chazan), and most of their Brussels based team (Katya Adler, Gavin Lee, Chris Morris) there as well - I think that's enough to be getting started with.

Tim Willcox is also there and I'd imagine Christian Fraser will be there later as well.
Last edited by lxflyer on 14 November 2015 10:34am
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rob Founding member
ITV News Special at 9.45pm.
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lxflyer
noggin posted:
lxflyer posted:
Andrew posted:
lxflyer posted:
Andrew posted:
Surprised they didn't continue on BBC One. So far due to various circumstances there has been no extra coverage on BBC1 and actually less than we'd get normally. The opt out at 9:15 was badly done with BBC One missing the opt out point.

Breakfast has now finished entirely at 9:30, which is rare on a Saturday.


I'm not really sure that there would have been much to add at this stage by staying on BBC One - the basic tragic facts are known - it's not a moving story as such now - we've moved on to analysis and why.

If people want live updates they have the News Channel.


You assume people are fully all over the story though, particularly with the Friday night timing of the events. Many could be waking up and finding out for the first time.


This story broke at 21:00 last night - I'd find it difficult to believe that large numbers of people were waking up to it after 09:15 as a brand new news story.


I wouldn't. Not everyone in the UK is glued to the internet, or watches TV or listens to the radio all the time.


Well I think that the coverage on BBC One/Two frankly was sufficient.

The majority of people would have been aware of it - I don't see the need for BBC One to retain rolling news all day long.

13 hours later it is no longer breaking news.
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Custard56
BBC News at Ten: 5.75m (29.9%)
ITV News at Ten: 1.05m (5.7%)
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Tony
There was a bit of a messy switchover at 10pm last night, I was watching WORLD and the news channel and the news channel went to news at 10 with Fiona Bruce after showing about 10-15 seconds of the start of WNA, then when I looked again a few minutes later the news channel was again with WNA and simulcasted till Martine Croxall took over at 1030 broadcasting on both channels
Last edited by Tony on 14 November 2015 11:01am
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noggin Founding member
lxflyer posted:
noggin posted:
lxflyer posted:
Andrew posted:
lxflyer posted:
Andrew posted:
Surprised they didn't continue on BBC One. So far due to various circumstances there has been no extra coverage on BBC1 and actually less than we'd get normally. The opt out at 9:15 was badly done with BBC One missing the opt out point.

Breakfast has now finished entirely at 9:30, which is rare on a Saturday.


I'm not really sure that there would have been much to add at this stage by staying on BBC One - the basic tragic facts are known - it's not a moving story as such now - we've moved on to analysis and why.

If people want live updates they have the News Channel.


You assume people are fully all over the story though, particularly with the Friday night timing of the events. Many could be waking up and finding out for the first time.


This story broke at 21:00 last night - I'd find it difficult to believe that large numbers of people were waking up to it after 09:15 as a brand new news story.


I wouldn't. Not everyone in the UK is glued to the internet, or watches TV or listens to the radio all the time.


Well I think that the coverage on BBC One/Two frankly was sufficient.

The majority of people would have been aware of it - I don't see the need for BBC One to retain rolling news all day long.

13 hours later it is no longer breaking news.


I wasn't arguing for increased coverage, just pointing out that I don't agree you can assume that the audience who will not have seen the news in a 12 hour period (8 of which many people will have been asleep for) aren't significant enough to be served by a BBC One bulletin.

Significant portions of UK society will not have watched or read a news outlet in the 2100-0915 window.

Having just checked - it appears there isn't a scheduled lunchtime bulletin in the EPG on BBC One at the moment, which feels like a mistake.
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Inspector Sands
noggin posted:

Significant portions of UK society will not have watched or read a news outlet in the 2100-0915 window.

Indeed, on a Friday night especially lots of people go out for the evening. Certainly if it had been last Friday I still wouldn't have known about it

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Having just checked - it appears there isn't a scheduled lunchtime bulletin in the EPG on BBC One at the moment, which feels like a mistake.

I'm sure one will appear
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itsrobert Founding member
Nicky posted:
tmorgan96 posted:
SomeRandomStuff posted:
gordonthegopher posted:
Brekkie posted:
Poor week for ITV. Can't believe they're showing Jackpot 247 when such an event is unfolding - no wonder they struggle to get ITV News taken seriously.

France 24 doing a superb job - always rated Mark Owen when he was at Granada. Great interview with an eyewitness from the Bataclan just now.


Have to agree, huge News story even if it is this late and itv NEWS not on air even when normal programming has finished. Very poor.

Rubbish. ITV really are not equipped to be doing this sort of coverage during the day never mind at 1:30am. The only channels that are rolling are those that would have been rolling anyway.

That's pretty poor if ITN can't muster up resources to provide rolling coverage, they're a news agency and its 2015. It really should be standard practice to provide rolling coverage at any time on a moment's notice. The BBC and even Sky News manage to do so, as do many much smaller broadcasters globally.


I don't think it's a case of ITN not being able to muster up resources - more a case of ITV, wrongly or rightly, deciding it wasn't worth it. ITN is more than capable of providing open-ended news coverage at the drop of a hat if they are requested to do so.

Absolutely correct - ITN is staffed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. There is always a skeleton staff overnight which consists of some journalists and an engineer in MCR. Don't forget that ITN is also NBC's London bureau so will have been providing support to the coverage in the US - as well as gathering resources, footage etc. ready for ITV, Channel 4 and Five broadcasts throughout today. Just because you don't see any live coverage doesn't mean there isn't anything going on. It is absolutely ITV's decision as to whether they provide rolling coverage. As I keep reiterating, ITV is ITN's client, not the other way around.

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