NG
The irony of Natasha posing in front of lots of plasma or LCD screens is not lost on me... (Though they are all displaying shash - is that significant?)
Sounds like they are aiming for a GMTV/Breakfast style agenda in the evening - relaxed, informal etc. (Kermode was previously Editor of BBC Breakfast after all)
On the other hand - blanket statements about plasma screens etc. can be glib... Using an in-vision screen is actually often a more natural and relaxed way of interviewing someone - where the presenter has a natural relation ship with the guest - than the other alternative - which is DVE boxes and the presenter staring into the camera. The latter is cheaper though - as you need fewer cameras, less complex lighting etc.
Hopefully they will also ditch the presentation gizmos of endless "Coming up", "Still to come" menu hell (which are often "invititations to surf" for the audience)
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benjy posted:
Strange looking picture on Broadcast right now...
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/images/natasha_kap_five_resized_250_tcm19-588514.jpg
Apparently the new Five News will take a "positive approach to reporting the day's events", and try to make the news "a little less dismal".
Other bits of interest...
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/images/natasha_kap_five_resized_250_tcm19-588514.jpg
Apparently the new Five News will take a "positive approach to reporting the day's events", and try to make the news "a little less dismal".
Other bits of interest...
broadcastnow.co.uk posted:
David Kermode said: "A lot of news is very depressing and can be fairly heavy to watch. We will continue to do serious hard news stories when required, but a significant amount of the daily programme will be dedicated to a more positive news agenda whether it be a cancer survivor or an act of heroism.
"It will be something which makes you feel good to be alive."
Kaplinsky will also have an informal dress code and could present the news in jeans and a T-shirt.
Shaw's other major changes include bringing a daytime feel to the studio and ridding it of technology and gadgets such as plasma screens and video walls.
He said: "I am fed up with this willy-waving around technology on the news. Everyone knows what a plasma screen is and people are not impressed by it any more. It's time to move on and go back to basics."
Five is staying tightlipped on the exact details of the new set but Kermode said there would be no desk. He confirmed Kaplinsky would be seated, but would not confirm whether she would be on a sofa.
He said the emphasis was on creating a relaxed and informal environment to reflect its daytime slot.
"It will be something which makes you feel good to be alive."
Kaplinsky will also have an informal dress code and could present the news in jeans and a T-shirt.
Shaw's other major changes include bringing a daytime feel to the studio and ridding it of technology and gadgets such as plasma screens and video walls.
He said: "I am fed up with this willy-waving around technology on the news. Everyone knows what a plasma screen is and people are not impressed by it any more. It's time to move on and go back to basics."
Five is staying tightlipped on the exact details of the new set but Kermode said there would be no desk. He confirmed Kaplinsky would be seated, but would not confirm whether she would be on a sofa.
He said the emphasis was on creating a relaxed and informal environment to reflect its daytime slot.
The irony of Natasha posing in front of lots of plasma or LCD screens is not lost on me... (Though they are all displaying shash - is that significant?)
Sounds like they are aiming for a GMTV/Breakfast style agenda in the evening - relaxed, informal etc. (Kermode was previously Editor of BBC Breakfast after all)
On the other hand - blanket statements about plasma screens etc. can be glib... Using an in-vision screen is actually often a more natural and relaxed way of interviewing someone - where the presenter has a natural relation ship with the guest - than the other alternative - which is DVE boxes and the presenter staring into the camera. The latter is cheaper though - as you need fewer cameras, less complex lighting etc.
Hopefully they will also ditch the presentation gizmos of endless "Coming up", "Still to come" menu hell (which are often "invititations to surf" for the audience)
SA
surely it's not a NEWS programme if it's not telling you what's happened that day. If they go looking for human interest stories and 'feelgood' survivor stories - then it's a current affairs magazine programme, not a news bulletin. And therefore calling it Five News is misleading.
MI
I thought Five were obligated to provide a news service with proper news bulletins like they have for the past decade . This doesn't appear to be going to happen in the future judging from the bizarre comments from Kermmode. Also the radical slashing of the shows durations from an hour and a half a day to less than an hour. If they keep the same staff numbers I don't think there's going to be a lot for them to do.
Had someone asked me to describe a nightmare vision of Five News this would be close to it.
salfordjohn posted:
surely it's not a NEWS programme if it's not telling you what's happened that day. If they go looking for human interest stories and 'feelgood' survivor stories - then it's a current affairs magazine programme, not a news bulletin. And therefore calling it Five News is misleading.
I thought Five were obligated to provide a news service with proper news bulletins like they have for the past decade . This doesn't appear to be going to happen in the future judging from the bizarre comments from Kermmode. Also the radical slashing of the shows durations from an hour and a half a day to less than an hour. If they keep the same staff numbers I don't think there's going to be a lot for them to do.
Had someone asked me to describe a nightmare vision of Five News this would be close to it.
MD
I thought Five were obligated to provide a news service with proper news bulletins like they have for the past decade . This doesn't appear to be going to happen in the future judging from the bizarre comments from Kermmode. Also the radical slashing of the shows durations from an hour and a half a day to less than an hour. If they keep the same staff numbers I don't think there's going to be a lot for them to do.
Had someone asked me to describe a nightmare vision of Five News this would be close to it.
In essence, this is how it will be...
If you want the depressing and in depth stories, go to Channel 4 or BBC
If you want populist or celebrity, go to ITV or Sky
If you want human interest, and feel good, now you can come to five.
And of course for the big news stories...
mizzb posted:
salfordjohn posted:
surely it's not a NEWS programme if it's not telling you what's happened that day. If they go looking for human interest stories and 'feelgood' survivor stories - then it's a current affairs magazine programme, not a news bulletin. And therefore calling it Five News is misleading.
I thought Five were obligated to provide a news service with proper news bulletins like they have for the past decade . This doesn't appear to be going to happen in the future judging from the bizarre comments from Kermmode. Also the radical slashing of the shows durations from an hour and a half a day to less than an hour. If they keep the same staff numbers I don't think there's going to be a lot for them to do.
Had someone asked me to describe a nightmare vision of Five News this would be close to it.
In essence, this is how it will be...
If you want the depressing and in depth stories, go to Channel 4 or BBC
If you want populist or celebrity, go to ITV or Sky
If you want human interest, and feel good, now you can come to five.
And of course for the big news stories...
Quote:
We will continue to do serious hard news stories when required
BR
Sounds to me like they should have got Martin Lewis to present this then.
It's a great shame how far Five News has fallen in the last few years - Sky News certainly are partly to blame, but the rot really began to set in when Channel 5 became Five and the channel's management wanted the station to become something it isn't.
It's a great shame how far Five News has fallen in the last few years - Sky News certainly are partly to blame, but the rot really began to set in when Channel 5 became Five and the channel's management wanted the station to become something it isn't.
LO
I thought Five were obligated to provide a news service with proper news bulletins like they have for the past decade . This doesn't appear to be going to happen in the future judging from the bizarre comments from Kermmode. Also the radical slashing of the shows durations from an hour and a half a day to less than an hour. If they keep the same staff numbers I don't think there's going to be a lot for them to do.
Had someone asked me to describe a nightmare vision of Five News this would be close to it.
No they are only slashing five news by 15 minutes. Next week, i persume they are only having a bulletin at 12.30 and 7 so they can get the studio ready for the relaunch the following week, but from the 18th five news should air at 12.30 for 15 minutes and half an hour at both 5pm and 7pm.
mizzb posted:
salfordjohn posted:
surely it's not a NEWS programme if it's not telling you what's happened that day. If they go looking for human interest stories and 'feelgood' survivor stories - then it's a current affairs magazine programme, not a news bulletin. And therefore calling it Five News is misleading.
I thought Five were obligated to provide a news service with proper news bulletins like they have for the past decade . This doesn't appear to be going to happen in the future judging from the bizarre comments from Kermmode. Also the radical slashing of the shows durations from an hour and a half a day to less than an hour. If they keep the same staff numbers I don't think there's going to be a lot for them to do.
Had someone asked me to describe a nightmare vision of Five News this would be close to it.
No they are only slashing five news by 15 minutes. Next week, i persume they are only having a bulletin at 12.30 and 7 so they can get the studio ready for the relaunch the following week, but from the 18th five news should air at 12.30 for 15 minutes and half an hour at both 5pm and 7pm.
BR
Unfortunately though two of them are hosted by Natasha Kaplunksky!
It's the hourly updates though that really need reinstating - I wonder if they'll bother with one at 6pm, or whether that would interrupt their flow from Neighbours to Home and Away too much.
mizzb posted:
That's one positive then that there will still be three bulletins in the week.
Unfortunately though two of them are hosted by Natasha Kaplunksky!
It's the hourly updates though that really need reinstating - I wonder if they'll bother with one at 6pm, or whether that would interrupt their flow from Neighbours to Home and Away too much.
MI
Unfortunately though two of them are hosted by Natasha Kaplunksky!
It's the hourly updates though that really need reinstating - I wonder if they'll bother with one at 6pm, or whether that would interrupt their flow from Neighbours to Home and Away too much.
I wasnt a fan of the hourlies, except for the very late ones but they could bring back the one at 6pm which was around until the switch from ITN. Perhaps nk could put on an aussie accent to get in with the 'feel' of it.
Brekkie posted:
mizzb posted:
That's one positive then that there will still be three bulletins in the week.
Unfortunately though two of them are hosted by Natasha Kaplunksky!
It's the hourly updates though that really need reinstating - I wonder if they'll bother with one at 6pm, or whether that would interrupt their flow from Neighbours to Home and Away too much.
I wasnt a fan of the hourlies, except for the very late ones but they could bring back the one at 6pm which was around until the switch from ITN. Perhaps nk could put on an aussie accent to get in with the 'feel' of it.