Five News

I believe it was agreed at the time that people would be a bit of interaction between Sky and Five. It was said that one minute Adam Boulton would report for Sky, and then appear with a report on five...but they've decided to keep Andy Bell. (I assume he will play a bit of a Jon Craig role - sort of second to Adam.)

I think people like Kirsty Young won't be on the relief list for Sky News, but I'd like to think Charlie Stayt and Kate Anderson will have a place in the Sky News schedules sometimes.

Hopefully Sky News will lead to major changes at Five News to make it a distinctive bulletin once again.

When 5 News launched in 1997 it was unlike any other news bulletin on screen, very pacey and removed from the safety of the studio.

Since 2000 though it's been tamed down with each revamp, and apart from having no desk has no clear difference to any other programme. Obviously this is also due to the modernisation of BBC/ITV/C4 News following in the footsteps of Five News.

Yes, it will be interesting to see if Sky herald a "return-to form" for five. If you think about 97, the news was amazing...a really news with balls kind of feeling and was generally considered an amazing success.

But sadly it has been slowed scaled back in terms of its on-screen presence. It may be all to do with ITN having to pay "Sky-high" *BOOM BOOM* costs to keep the ITV contract, and it forced a few cut-backs.

It's been confirmed that Five News is launching early.

They are now doing a 1 minute 9pm bulletin on both the 1st and 2nd of January. Before that they were to start at 5.30pm on the 3rd. The 5.30pm bulletin will still be the first full length show, but will be preceeded by these 1 min updates.

Contrary to some opinions expressed these 1 min updates were confirmed by the Five News editor only yesterday, and are presumably because of the Tsnuami dominating TV news at the moment.

Erm, what I said earlier in the thread weren't "opinions", they - as I've pointed out - were the imformation I was told by somebody at Sky News.

There are days you can sniff the testosterone in this place.

Bruce, hi. For someone that complains about testosterone, you seem defensive a lot of the time.

I have no doubt you were told something by someone at Sky News, then again seeing as I work there and the e-mail announcing only went out yesterday I would have to assume they were your assumptions. The fact is the decision was taken yesterday, and it wouldn't have been taken by Sky News but by Five.

You are welcome to attack me, call into doubt my information or whatever you think it is that will make you feel like the big alpha male around here. I only come here to read a bit and post a very little bit.

Now to make the rest of you sick. Back in September this forum very nearly got a couple of artist renditions of the new sky news studio, i even uploaded the message, then thought better of it and deleted it. They're probably out of date by now anyway

Not just testosterone, but testosterone coupled with childishness.

This forum just gets better.

" ... assume they were your assumptions"

What the hell does that mean?

There were no assumptions made. Sorry.

Don't really care if you claim you work there, I think the information I've put up here before proves my credentials.

If you do work there, then I'm happy we've got another 'insider' on the board. But to say I'm on the defensive when you said "Contrary to some opinions expressed ...", I think your comment was a bit rich.

No more along the lines of being aware that it was company sensitive info, and that in hindsight making such information available in the public domain so early would only be a bad idea, and definitely be a breach of confidence on my part. So forgive my exuberance for wanting to show everyone what they wanted to see but it would have been the wrong thing to do.

As for Uncle Bruce welcoming another 'insider' to the board, thank you but I've been here a little while already I try to keep myself to myself, but managed to get drawn out this time.

Probably best that in future I restrict myself to other less angry forums no?

Up to you, my friend. Sorry for the defensive attitude - but there are a lot of, erm, lesser people than you out there at the moment. This place is being infested!

You have to think that back in 1997, very few people had access to News channels, even then there were only a couple available, it is also the time that BBC1and ITV had a very similar style of News, which many people found quite boring and out of date. Then Channel 5 was switched on and gave News a kick in the balls, it came from a Newsroom, it was on the hour every hour (it was though! Between 6am and 12am no updates at 4pm or 10pm!) it had music, it summed up the News in a minute or so, and 5 News Early was also worth watching as it made News watchable at Breakfast Time, it also had a ticker on screen too!

It was really ahead of it's time, but time progressed, BBC and ITV gave their services new looks which were drastic improvements on their predasessors (sp?) and then Channel 5 News started to fall behind, they moved the main bulletin twice, they lost Kirsty Young and gave it revamps that weren't up to match as their predasessors. Also ITN lost alot of money in the past few years and is only starting to recover, they also had to make several cutbacks in order to keep the ITV contract. But the last revamp they had was too late, Five News since 2003 onwards has had brilliant presentation and a great theme tune, far more serious compared to BBC or ITV.

I am very sad to see ITN Five News disappear as it has brought a good service for the last 7 and a half years, though I am looking foward to the Sky Five News as it is promosing alot, infact it seems to be promising a completly different service. Now they're not going to think that where is the first place people turn for News is going to be Five, but considering the amount of dosh they have available, it sounds like it's going to be very different, hopefully different to BBC or ITV.

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