How many of you work in television?
Have you ever put together a brand new show from scratch on a building site?
Lets do a five news vote and find out?
It's highly irregular after three days of broadcasting for you all to sit around and slag it off. How about a website devoted to sad anoraks where we sit and slag you off and the way you dress.
Get a life!
Do you work for Sky News? And aren't these people entitled to their opinions, whatever you make of them?
How many of you work in television?
Have you ever put together a brand new show from scratch on a building site?
Lets do a five news vote and find out?
It's highly irregular after three days of broadcasting for you all to sit around and slag it off. How about a website devoted to sad anoraks where we sit and slag you off and the way you dress.
Get a life!
Firstly, perhaps you could clarify exactly who you're referring to? Secondly - and before you make such pointed comments towards people you know nothing about - maybe you could make clear you own position and interest in the topic, and why you seem to feel that some of the comments made on this forum are such a personal attack on you?
I am a television professional with two decades of experience in live news and sport broadcasting across the major networks. I am referring to the people who can't wait to knock a programme even when it has been on-air for more than 4 minutes... Of course the producers of this programme are going to be guarded and play it safe. They're on a new system with a state of the art gallery and a new team. They've spent more money in two weeks than Five spent in it's budget with ITN the whole of last year and long may it continue. Remember, that most people who watch Five are being introduced to people like Peter Sharp and Martin Brunt for the first time and not as Sky news reporters.
GIVE IT TIME!!!!
How many of you work in television?
Have you ever put together a brand new show from scratch on a building site?
Lets do a five news vote and find out?
It's highly irregular after three days of broadcasting for you all to sit around and slag it off. How about a website devoted to sad anoraks where we sit and slag you off and the way you dress.
Get a life!
well you obviously seem bothered about what we think. if we were the sad anoraks you suggest you are, i'd imagine you wouldn't take the time to register and post.
Well SKY¦News is a 24 hour news channel (!) whereas five news is a few hours worth of bulletins a day aired on five! There is NO reason why five would want, or allow, SKY branding on their channel. They never allowed ITN branding (or now, ITV branding) and what would branding five news as SKY¦News actually achieve?
five do NOT want the news service to act as an advert for SKY¦News!!! ps is it correct to start the above sentence with a lower case 'f' even though it's the first letter of the sentence?
Ah sorry I didn't mean they should call the whole shooting match Sky News at 7, or even use their name during the programme. I just meant they use should the graphics from their bulletins on Sky News (ie the bold brash presentation, the breaking news whoosh, the captions etc etc, just without the words 'Sky News' - a bit like Scottish TV or UTV take ITV1 presentation without the ITV1 logo, or like regional news programmes look similar to their national counterparts)
While I'm not up for everything looking the same, and I take the point on board about this being a separate service, it seems a bit daft to spend so much time creating far inferior presentation.
Of course, Five may have already said no to this, so perhaps that's out of Sky's control...
Hmm - doesn't seem at all a good idea to me. Five would want their news to be part of the "channel" - and be tightly linked to their branding. (Think how BBC One News is based on Red, as is BBC One Presentation, BBC Three News is based on Blue, as is BBC Three Presentation - they link the news and channel however subliminally)
If the five news bulletins were to look similar to Sky they would surely inherit Sky brand awareness rather than five brand awareness, and people wouldn't associate the programmes with the channel five. Even if they didn't have the Sky on-screen logo, the colours, style, grammar and pace would nod far more to Sky than to five.
This isn't what Sky have been contracted to do - remember Sky are providing programmes for five, that five have commissioned and are paying for. I imagine five have been quite closely tied in with the launch and design -after all Chris Shaw, the launch Editor of Channel Five News at ITN in 1997, is now responsible for commissioning the Sky News version of five news... I can't imagine he was "hands off" entirely!
Though thinking about it, they will be broadcasting Sunrise again soon, which may already confuse viewers. I'm not saying that they should copy Sky News, it's just the fact of the two different services made by the same company.
Of course they could go back and do a new five news breakfast, though this would cost more money, especially against ratings.
I wonder if there would be a way for them to implement something so that the programme was called Sunrise and shownt on Sky News and five (a bit like Breakfast), and referred to within reports as Sunrise, and then generate the different style astons onto each of the channels.
Obviously though this would be too much effort for one hour on five.
What were the reasons for stopping the Five News (well 5 News) Early service anyway?
I quite liked the original one in 1997 when they did it from the front of the news room in front of that pink screen.
Though thinking about it, they will be broadcasting Sunrise again soon, which may already confuse viewers. I'm not saying that they should copy Sky News, it's just the fact of the two different services made by the same company.
Why should this be any more confusing for the average viewer than it was before Christmas when Five News was an ITN production?