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DU

Dunedin 3 January 2005 6:10pm

The content was fine, some of the shots were nice and interesting. I quite like the colours too- gives a warm feel that Sky News lacks with its excessive use of deep blue.

The bad points are

1. The steps- why there? they don't even look good from an interior design perspective.

2. The framing of Kirsty Young...you don't have to know anything about presentation to just know that's it looks 'wrong'

3. The astons- far too washy....actually very UN-sky news like so extra surprising.

4. The weather- the weather on Sky News is poor anyway, but the widescreen broadcast of it was extra disappointing. Very poor. Look at the BBC weather on the 1,6 or 10. That's how you do it.

AN

Ant 3 January 2005 6:15pm

North East posted:

Close -Up on Kirsty was a bit too tight for me.

Thats what I was thinking too. They could use the screens behind the presenter to perhaps show a slowed down video (like what ITV News does on its background).

[Sorry i've edited so many times. Wrong quote, spelling mistakes

. Bit tired!]

NG

noggin Founding member 3 January 2005 6:17pm

Blob posted:

think it all looks a bit cheap, american and 'mockish' really, and whats with the weather with the strange looking design on the edges.

Preferred the old look.

Looked like the weather graphics were still 4:3 - and they used some extra graphics to fill the 16:9 frame. I guess it ensures the weather is 4:3 safe... Did look a bit "cheap" though.

The whole thing felt a bit "low cost". The studio felt quite cluttered and cramped, and there was nothing in the bulletin that seemed new or innovative. The lighting and technical aspects of the set certainly didn't have "wow" factor. It all felt a bit "flat" and "cold", and a bit of a compromise.

It looked like an attempt to copy a US news show in presentation terms, but the content - packages, writing, news agenda etc. was far more British, so it kind of didn't gel for me. I think it would have been better to have tried something new (as they did in 1997) rather than just adopt a poor copy of a US show.

TE

TELEVISION 3 January 2005 6:35pm

I missed the start, but the titles and graphics look quite good. I don't like the music though, preferred the violins. The studio is ok, but I was expecting to see the newsroom, but obviously not. Like the bench though.

But on programme content, it is not looking good. I used to see the 5.30 programme as a short, summary programme, and the 7.00 as the flagship - because it was almost a full 30 minutes with no breaks, and it had a lot of content / studio guests. But now the 5.30 is the main programme, and it is the same layout as its predecessor, with a long break in the middle, and finishing at c. 5.50. Not enough news.

BC

Blake Connolly Founding member 3 January 2005 6:35pm

I think the set's not too bad, does look different to anything else over here, and a good use of Sky's resources in SE Asia.

The glass screen was a bit washed out on the edges - I noticed the plasmas snapped off when the screen came on but I don't think the lighting dimmed enough. Biggest worry apart from the odd framing of Kirsty, though, was that "The Day Today"-style effect of zooming into someone's mouth in the dentists report!

And I'm sure the weather's a stop-gap until Sky News moves into the new building.

CA

cat 3 January 2005 6:40pm

noggin posted:

Blob posted:

think it all looks a bit cheap, american and 'mockish' really, and whats with the weather with the strange looking design on the edges.

Preferred the old look.

Looked like the weather graphics were still 4:3 - and they used some extra graphics to fill the 16:9 frame. I guess it ensures the weather is 4:3 safe... Did look a bit "cheap" though.

The whole thing felt a bit "low cost". The studio felt quite cluttered and cramped, and there was nothing in the bulletin that seemed new or innovative. The lighting and technical aspects of the set certainly didn't have "wow" factor. It all felt a bit "flat" and "cold", and a bit of a compromise.

It looked like an attempt to copy a US news show in presentation terms, but the content - packages, writing, news agenda etc. was far more British, so it kind of didn't gel for me. I think it would have been better to have tried something new (as they did in 1997) rather than just adopt a poor copy of a US show.

I don't think it looks any worse than any other UK news show - I prefer the studio over the BBC One tupperware box and ITV News mess any day, but agree on the steps. It seems to be a Jack Morton trademark, and so I think they were certain to be in there from the start... wouldn't say they really added anything.

I would say that if they wanted to give it the ''apartment'' feel that it is clearly designed to have, it would have been a nicer idea to make the downstairs 'five' logo wall into a series of projector screens that projected a city skyline (not necessarily live).

The news content was solid, and I think the first report and the dentists things were just par for the course in a programme debut. Always better to look at the second programme. Personally, I'd rather they'd just dropped the dentist report and had an extra live from South East Asia.

The only complaint I have about the graphics is that they look a bit too ITV-regional-news-esq before the generic look came in. Remind me a bit too much of Meridian Tonight.

CA

cat 3 January 2005 6:46pm

Blake Connolly posted:

I think the set's not too bad, does look different to anything else over here, and a good use of Sky's resources in SE Asia.

The glass screen was a bit washed out on the edges - I noticed the plasmas snapped off when the screen came on but I don't think the lighting dimmed enough. Biggest worry apart from the odd framing of Kirsty, though, was that "The Day Today"-style effect of zooming into someone's mouth in the dentists report!

And I'm sure the weather's a stop-gap until Sky News moves into the new building.

lol - Anyone remember The Day Today's report on ''rogue dentists''??

Remarkable (and slightly disturbing!) how much of The Day Today you now find in TV news.

The ''Barbara Wintergreen, CBN News'' reports are some of the best comedy sketches ever.

MA

mark Founding member 3 January 2005 6:51pm

I'm really impressed - can't says there's anything I don't like about it.

Great use of Sky's resources, nice graphics and a very nice studio.

OH

ohwhatanight Founding member 3 January 2005 6:53pm

WM

Weather Man 3 January 2005 7:02pm

does anyone have any video captures of the show?

LT

LoveTV!! 3 January 2005 7:08pm

Damn I missed it!!! Has anyone got a video of the opening titles please?

Thanks,
LoveTV

MO

Moz 3 January 2005 7:30pm

Well, the most important thing was right - content. Though it all seemed a bit fast paced and they seemed to do too much sport (how many news stories did they cover, seemed like only 2 or 3) what was there was good quality/

However, this is a presentation forum...

Titles and graphics were OK (apart from the ridiculous mouth effect).
Music is awful (bring back the violins which I thought were great)

But the set, oh dear oh dear oh dear. Was it Martin who said it was the best TV news set he'd ever seen? Well we're all entitled to our opinions but I thought it was Richard & Judy's set!

I think in the fax to the designers they asked for "something suitable for covering disasters" - unfortunately the designers' fax was low on toner and the words "something suitable for covering" got missed out!

Oh and I don't like the way they recolour video and pictures orange & purple, and they've nicked one of News 24's screens...!

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