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(December 2007)

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CO
Connews
erich_b posted:


Bloody hell... what is it with German/Deutsch channels and Vialog? Is it because that is really the only font that houses their symbols etc.? It's used on a lot of things there AFAIK.

Nice set, opening titles remind me of Sky News.

My God, Ros Childs - long time no see!
MI
m_in_m
They do the join properly no BBC bodge job. I notice though the presenters couldn't be further away from one another if they tried - good job for widescreen.
ER
erich_b
yes, there's no 4:3 safeness.
We have the "advantage" that we don't have SKY-receivers. So Austrian (and German as well) TV-users are used to have a black bar on top and bottom when using a 4:3 TV-set. Nobody does zoom the pic, so nothing is missing on the left or right
EY
the eye
I've noticed that on alot of French and Dutch news programmes on a channel here called Stratos, all the graphics are within a 16:9 safe zone, and if you were viewing in 4:3 you'd see nothing!
SP
spotlightsouthwest
the eye posted:
erich_b posted:
Here 2 pics from Austrian state broadcaster ORF. This is the main news on the first channel ORF 1. It's a short bulletin for a younger audience.

ORF 2 has it's main bulletin half an hour before the one on ORF 1. Images from ORF 2 to follow soon


Inspired by BBC National News' backdrop?!


Exactly that, there was a lot in Austrian papers about the relaunch - it was directly inspired by the BBC. As you point out the backdrop features reflected light boxes and vertical lines just like in N6.
NG
noggin Founding member
spotlightsouthwest posted:
the eye posted:
erich_b posted:
Here 2 pics from Austrian state broadcaster ORF. This is the main news on the first channel ORF 1. It's a short bulletin for a younger audience.

ORF 2 has it's main bulletin half an hour before the one on ORF 1. Images from ORF 2 to follow soon


Inspired by BBC National News' backdrop?!


Exactly that, there was a lot in Austrian papers about the relaunch - it was directly inspired by the BBC. As you point out the backdrop features reflected light boxes and vertical lines just like in N6.


Not only inspired by... A large group of ORF visitors were seen in the BBC One gallery and studio before they relaunched... (Glad they realied the need for design with vertical lines in it to mask the projector joins...)
NG
noggin Founding member
m_in_m posted:
They do the join properly no BBC bodge job. I notice though the presenters couldn't be further away from one another if they tried - good job for widescreen.


Does look like they are two strangers trying to avoid each other though...

Nice clean set, projectors look a bit washed out on the sport sequence, so they may be struggling to keep the lighting clear of the screens. (Suspect they are using more softs than the BBC judging by the faces)

Nicely done though - simple, clean and effective. Also by using electronically inserted graphics rather than images in screens, they get a clearer, cleaner look and don't have to worry about whether to get the screen or the presenter in focus...

Think the studio is quite a bit smaller - fewer cubes and they seem to be closer to them? (Means you see fewer joins though)
NG
noggin Founding member
itsrobert posted:
noggin posted:
seamus posted:
noggin posted:


RTE News is a bit more interesting, though looks very cramped, and using a white-edged DVE box for down-the-lines should have been banned when we left the 80s. (Well I'm assuming it is a DVE box...) Interesting, though again slightly dated, use of wood on the desk, though a nice attempt at something simple but different. (Halogen downlighters though - thought we'd left them in the late 90s - a bit IKEA these days aren't they?) The mushy backdrop looks like something you'd have had behind you in an 80s school photo though - looks a bit of a mush to me.


I think the video insert is just that... it is graphically applied. It's horrendous IMO. RTÉ has a very low budget, because of the somewhat small population, lack of enough government programming, and competition from UTV and the BBC primarily.


Yep - DVE = Digital Video Effect(s) - i.e. electronically squeezing and processing the picture to insert it into another one or otherwise alter it's shape, position, size etc.

The old BBC blue mid-90s BBC News used a combination of DVEs and graphics for its down-the-line screens, but the result was aesthetically a lot cleaner. (The cut glass surrounds helped) It didn't look physical, but it looked sort of "right" - apart from the One O'Clock News where they zoomed into the box flying the presenter off-screen in a most unsettling manner!


Is this what you mean, noggin?

http://www.btinternet.com/~robc86/Images/old_news/1996h.JPG


Yep - very clever combination of real set and desk, real blue backdrops, masking, graphics and DVE, along with tracked laser discs for the wide shots. Much neater implementation than RTEs - and more than 14 years ago?

But equally it was cold, distancing, not amazingly flexible (you could only use templated shots or the graphics went wrong!), and the whole look was a little on the OTT "Pompous News" side. I know many here love it - but it was very much of its time.
NG
noggin Founding member
itsrobert posted:
timgraham posted:


Isn't that Ros Childs? I haven't seen her in ages. She used to present the ITN/ITV News Channel and then cropped up a couple of times on BBC World. Since then, I haven't seen her. How long has she been in Australia?


Gosh - it certainly looks very much like her doesn't it?
AN
all new Phil
It is indeed Ros Childs.
AB
ABC Australia
Ros has been with the ABC since early 2005, she's a fantastic presenter!
TI
timgraham
Yep that's Ros Smile She presents the Midday Report during the week (a national news program a bit like the BBC One O'Clock News).

The sets I've posted above are at their studios in Melbourne and Sydney respectively - like I said, the ABC operates on a comparatively tiny budget, and do every bulletin locally. The commercial network sets aren't bad, some are better than others.

Seven's have a pretty similar design accross the country (except for Perth which is stuck with the previous look) - here's the ones in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. The last one is the Adelaide set with an ultra-wide shot showing the set for Today Tonight - a local tabloid current affairs program which has since got a new look.
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/7news/images/430/vlcsnap-1420702.jpghttp://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/7news/images/melbourne/vlcsnap-145167.jpghttp://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/7news/images/brisbane/080806_sevennews2.jpghttp://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/7news/images/adelaide/7j8.jpg

Ten have a quite nice set in the middle of their Sydney newsroom; the last two are of the news sets in Melbourne and Brisbane - considerably more dated..
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/ten/images/morning/TenEarlyNews2.jpghttp://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/ten/images/sydney/tennews8.jpg
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/ten/images/melbourne/vlcsnap-185166.jpghttp://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/ten/images/brisbane/TenBrisbane1.jpg
And yes, that last one has a newsroom dyed blue as it's backdrop Confused

WIN and National Nine News are quite keen on CSO backdrops..bear in mind that the former is a regional network and the latter a quite major metro one (although WIN takes Nine programming):
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/winnews/images/vic/vlcsnap-16608.jpghttp://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/winnews/images/wa/vlcsnap-11379299.jpg
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/n9n/images/nightline/vlcsnap-1814736.jpghttp://tvnewsroom.co.uk/nz/images/n9n/images/melbourne/hitchener-jones-nixon.jpg
And noggin, yes - some bulletins are done from central locations although WIN are the only network into it in a big way. They prerecord about 25 local news bulletins every weeknight from studios at their HQ in Wollongong, Ballaratt, Mount Gambier, Canberra, Rockhampton, and Hobart. Their WA bulletin recently shifted accross the contintent to STW-9's studios in Perth - a station that WIN recently bought out. Apart from that, Ten do their Adelaide bulletin out of Melbourne, and their Perth one from Sydney.

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