The Newsroom

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(December 2007)

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seamus
noggin posted:


RTE News is a bit more interesting, though looks very cramped, and using a white-edged DVE box for down-the-lines should have been banned when we left the 80s. (Well I'm assuming it is a DVE box...) Interesting, though again slightly dated, use of wood on the desk, though a nice attempt at something simple but different. (Halogen downlighters though - thought we'd left them in the late 90s - a bit IKEA these days aren't they?) The mushy backdrop looks like something you'd have had behind you in an 80s school photo though - looks a bit of a mush to me.


I think the video insert is just that... it is graphically applied. It's horrendous IMO. RTÉ has a very low budget, because of the somewhat small population, lack of enough government programming, and competition from UTV and the BBC primarily.
ER
erich_b
Here 2 pics from Austrian state broadcaster ORF. This is the main news on the first channel ORF 1. It's a short bulletin for a younger audience.

ORF 2 has it's main bulletin half an hour before the one on ORF 1. Images from ORF 2 to follow soon

http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap12458.png
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap12613.png
NG
noggin Founding member
the eye posted:
Yea, Blair Broadcast Design in the US designed it.. its horrible, and theyve had it since 2005. Time for a new set imo!


Thought so - you can dell US news design a mile off. Don't know why other countries turn to the US for this stuff - it is so dull and conservative.

The other screengrabs you posted confirmed my fears. It really does look like a local US station from about 5 years ago.
EY
the eye
erich_b posted:
Here 2 pics from Austrian state broadcaster ORF. This is the main news on the first channel ORF 1. It's a short bulletin for a younger audience.

ORF 2 has it's main bulletin half an hour before the one on ORF 1. Images from ORF 2 to follow soon


Inspired by BBC National News' backdrop?!
NG
noggin Founding member
seamus posted:
noggin posted:


RTE News is a bit more interesting, though looks very cramped, and using a white-edged DVE box for down-the-lines should have been banned when we left the 80s. (Well I'm assuming it is a DVE box...) Interesting, though again slightly dated, use of wood on the desk, though a nice attempt at something simple but different. (Halogen downlighters though - thought we'd left them in the late 90s - a bit IKEA these days aren't they?) The mushy backdrop looks like something you'd have had behind you in an 80s school photo though - looks a bit of a mush to me.


I think the video insert is just that... it is graphically applied. It's horrendous IMO. RTÉ has a very low budget, because of the somewhat small population, lack of enough government programming, and competition from UTV and the BBC primarily.


Yep - DVE = Digital Video Effect(s) - i.e. electronically squeezing and processing the picture to insert it into another one or otherwise alter it's shape, position, size etc.

The old BBC blue mid-90s BBC News used a combination of DVEs and graphics for its down-the-line screens, but the result was aesthetically a lot cleaner. (The cut glass surrounds helped) It didn't look physical, but it looked sort of "right" - apart from the One O'Clock News where they zoomed into the box flying the presenter off-screen in a most unsettling manner!
IT
itsrobert Founding member
timgraham posted:


Isn't that Ros Childs? I haven't seen her in ages. She used to present the ITN/ITV News Channel and then cropped up a couple of times on BBC World. Since then, I haven't seen her. How long has she been in Australia?
IT
itsrobert Founding member
noggin posted:
seamus posted:
noggin posted:


RTE News is a bit more interesting, though looks very cramped, and using a white-edged DVE box for down-the-lines should have been banned when we left the 80s. (Well I'm assuming it is a DVE box...) Interesting, though again slightly dated, use of wood on the desk, though a nice attempt at something simple but different. (Halogen downlighters though - thought we'd left them in the late 90s - a bit IKEA these days aren't they?) The mushy backdrop looks like something you'd have had behind you in an 80s school photo though - looks a bit of a mush to me.


I think the video insert is just that... it is graphically applied. It's horrendous IMO. RTÉ has a very low budget, because of the somewhat small population, lack of enough government programming, and competition from UTV and the BBC primarily.


Yep - DVE = Digital Video Effect(s) - i.e. electronically squeezing and processing the picture to insert it into another one or otherwise alter it's shape, position, size etc.

The old BBC blue mid-90s BBC News used a combination of DVEs and graphics for its down-the-line screens, but the result was aesthetically a lot cleaner. (The cut glass surrounds helped) It didn't look physical, but it looked sort of "right" - apart from the One O'Clock News where they zoomed into the box flying the presenter off-screen in a most unsettling manner!


Is this what you mean, noggin?

http://www.btinternet.com/~robc86/Images/old_news/1996h.JPG
ER
erich_b
the eye posted:
erich_b posted:
Here 2 pics from Austrian state broadcaster ORF. This is the main news on the first channel ORF 1. It's a short bulletin for a younger audience.

ORF 2 has it's main bulletin half an hour before the one on ORF 1. Images from ORF 2 to follow soon


Inspired by BBC National News' backdrop?!


Yes, you're right. When they introduced the new set, they said it's inspired by BBC
ER
erich_b
And here as promised the news from ORF 2, Zeit im Bild (word-by-word translated: Time in Picture):

http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap50532.png
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap50647.png
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap50725.png
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap50985.png
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap51214.png
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap51360.png
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/vlcsnap51631.png
DB
dbl
When did Zeit im Bild go 16:9?
EY
the eye
I quite like that set, but not too keen on the desk.
ER
erich_b
dbl posted:
When did Zeit im Bild go 16:9?


ZIB went widescreen on April 10th 2007. ORF had a big relaunch at this date. Some new programmes, all self-produced stuff in 16:9 (including the news, regional news follwed a few months later) and all advertising in 16:9.

ORF made a hard cut. From this date on each spot from each advertiser had to be delivered in 16:9. One day before everything was 4:3, then only 16:9.

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