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EuroNews is the only channel showing the Muhammed cartoons

(February 2006)

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DV
darth vader
themagicmonkey posted:
Did you see that hideous man Stephen Green on Newsnight last night - his argument appeared to be that Muslims can be offended but Jerry Springer the Opera should not have been shown because it offends Christians? The reason? Christians don't blow themselves up on the tube!

Go atheism!


I am also an atheist, but I think it would be wrong to generalise Muslims and suggest that any Muslim would go blow themselves up on the tube. The ones that did may have done it in the name of Islam but they were really just deluded.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
themagicmonkey posted:
Did you see that hideous man Stephen Green on Newsnight last night - his argument appeared to be that Muslims can be offended but Jerry Springer the Opera should not have been shown because it offends Christians? The reason? Christians don't blow themselves up on the tube!

Go atheism!


If Christians do start blowing themselves up, I really hope that Stephen Green is the first in line, and chooses a nice deserted field to do it in.

This whole cartoons thing is a bit weird. The original Danish cartoons are, well, a bit rubbish. Not funny, there doesn't seem to be much point to them and they do seem to be attempting to be offensive. Not worthy of all the protests and everything, all this violence that goes on all over the place from all sides in the name of what I consider fictional characters is awful, but I can't see why the cartoons were created nonetheless.

Meanwhile that cartoon on the French paper was perfectly acceptable, and proved a good point (I think it was all the different Gods & Prophets standing round with the Christian God saying to Muhammed "Don't worry, it happens to all of us" or something like that) and the editor of that paper gets sacked! In secular France!

It's a mad, mad, mad world....
JO
Joe
The cartoons aren't funny in the slightest.

I don't think the media should be censoring these images because it is not as if they are condoning them, they are just saying that 'these are the cartoons that are upsetting Muslims'.

It's like when Smarties changed the shape of their tube, they're not saying 'go out and buy Smarties' are they, they were just showing the shape of the new tube?
ST
stuartfanning
stuartfanning posted:
Digital Spy have had a change of heart and reinstated the thread!

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=339020&page=1&pp=25
JA
jay Founding member
Well after reading tonight's London Evening Standard, I have been shocked at what I have read.

Muslims marching through the centre of London chanting 'Watch out Britain', 'Remember 9/11??' and 'Europe watch out when the Muhajadins come' (I can't even be bothered to check if that's the right word/spelling).

I'm sorry if I offend anyone with my post, but these people do NOT deserve a place in this country. Kick them out or shoot them, please.
TE
TELEVISION
Don't want to change the point of this thread into a political discussion, but is it any wonder that Muslims are becoming suspects of terror etc. when they go about chanting things like that. They are in theory, giving people like the BNP ammunition for their campaign to stop allowing in any more asylum seekers. I don't like the BNP, and what they stand for, but the actions of these protesters does not exactly help their cause.

Anyway, I think if the media showing these pictures does disrespect Islam, then they should not be shown. And I think the press in Britain are right not to print them, although I'm sure it's inevitable than some newspapers will eventually.
QU
Quorida
TELEVISION posted:
Don't want to change the point of this thread into a political discussion, but is it any wonder that Muslims are becoming suspects of terror etc. when they go about chanting things like that. They are in theory, giving people like the BNP ammunition for their campaign to stop allowing in any more asylum seekers. I don't like the BNP, and what they stand for, but the actions of these protesters does not exactly help their cause.

Anyway, I think if the media showing these pictures does disrespect Islam, then they should not be shown. And I think the press in Britain are right not to print them, although I'm sure it's inevitable than some newspapers will eventually.


Britain (at the moment, at least) isn't an Islamic country, and we apparently enjoy a free press. But through threats, violence and extreme intimidation by muslims have caused the UK press to run scared from the bearded bomb merchants.

I think the cartoons should be published - rightly or wrongly. This is a free nation and we should not let our press or ourselves be intimidated into silence by twisted and hypocritical muslims.
JA
jay Founding member
Quorida posted:
TELEVISION posted:
Don't want to change the point of this thread into a political discussion, but is it any wonder that Muslims are becoming suspects of terror etc. when they go about chanting things like that. They are in theory, giving people like the BNP ammunition for their campaign to stop allowing in any more asylum seekers. I don't like the BNP, and what they stand for, but the actions of these protesters does not exactly help their cause.

Anyway, I think if the media showing these pictures does disrespect Islam, then they should not be shown. And I think the press in Britain are right not to print them, although I'm sure it's inevitable than some newspapers will eventually.


Britain (at the moment, at least) isn't an Islamic country, and we apparently enjoy a free press. But through threats, violence and extreme intimidation by muslims have caused the UK press to run scared from the bearded bomb merchants.

I think the cartoons should be published - rightly or wrongly. This is a free nation and we should not let our press or ourselves be intimidated into silence by twisted and hypocritical muslims.


I half expected today's Sun to have a wrap-around of the Cartoons on the front and back pages today. Disappointingly, they weren't there. I would have loved to have seen that.

Instead, I'm glad the way The Sun has reacted to the protests with the headline "Now WE'RE offended" .

(And yes, I know The Sun isn't eveyone's favourite paper...)
QU
Quorida
Well, it is a traditionally right-wing paper (or right of centre as it prefers to call itself).

I'm just extremely worried about the consistent eroding of our freedom of speech. The Government are currently trying to push through a ridiculous bill through parliament which would make it ILLEGAL to provoke fun at other religions.

Now is the time to start worrying about our freedoms, and we must speak up to protect them, otherwise the whole foundations of modern western society is going to crumble away and lead to mass anarchy.
IS
Inspector Sands
Quorida posted:
I'm just extremely worried about the consistent eroding of our freedom of speech. The Government are currently trying to push through a ridiculous bill through parliament which would make it ILLEGAL to provoke fun at other religions.


In case you missed it on Wednesday, The bill has gone through and it was passed with the amendment that removed that part of the law
DV
darth vader
I don't think people are getting the point. In Islam it is a sin to try and portray the Prophet Muhammed pictorially anyway. The fact that he was portrayed as a suicide bomber is only secondary to them.
JA
jay Founding member
darth vader posted:
I don't think people are getting the point. In Islam it is a sin to try and portray the Prophet Muhammed pictorially anyway. The fact that he was portrayed as a suicide bomber is only secondary to them.


Then they should learn to grow up and worry about much more important issues.

Anyone has the right to draw a picture of whoever they want. Sin my arse.

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