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Presentation of the REF BUT NOT DEBATE OF THE REF (February 2016)

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Andrew Founding member
Norman Smith said on Victoria Derbyshire this morning that the first results should start coming in around 2am, by 6am pundits can probably make a projection and then around 7.30am the official announcement from Manchester.

Presumably there'll be an exit poll? Otherwise they've 4 hours to fill before the first result comes in.


No exit poll. No relevant historical polling to base it on, and therefore no guarantee of any accuracy.

John Curtice - who knows alot about these things - recommended going to bed around 7pm and getting up about 2am in order not to miss anything important.


Which is what I'm planning to do. Although what's betting there will be some sort of delay and the result won't be known until mid morning when I've already gone to work!

Can we expect a continuously updated count of individual votes on screen, rather than the usual seats?
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Gareth E
Can we expect a continuously updated count of individual votes on screen, rather than the usual seats?


That was certainly the case during the Scottish IndyRef coverage, although we were dealing with a couple of million votes on each side.

But this time the electorate is over 46 million. So, even with a 50% turnout, we could be dealing with figures of 13-14 million on each side presuming it's close.

Those kinds of figures may not be graphically pleasing. It'll be interesting to see how the broadcasters handle that aspect.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
I'd have thought they may opt for alternating between vote numbers and percentages of the result so far.

With regards to the C4 debate Paxman seemed to slightly fluff his intro. I could be wrong but I thought he said the audience consisted of "500 remain, 50 leave, and 50 undecided".
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A former member
I'd have thought they may opt for alternating between vote numbers and percentages of the result so far.

With regards to the C4 debate Paxman seemed to slightly fluff his intro. I could be wrong but I thought he said the audience consisted of "500 remain, 50 leave, and 50 undecided".


I think he knows whats coming, and this debate is GETTING ugly...... with plenty of people speaking utter crap...
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Stuart
I think he knows whats coming, and this debate is GETTING ugly...... with plenty of people speaking utter crap...

The musician certainly seems to be spouting crap, and I'm not sure why he's there.


However, I am liking the 'mood graph' on the screen. Very Happy
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A former member
That great one of the planist is saying what a pile of crap this debate programme is! Laughing and is having a go at Paxman.
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Blake Connolly Founding member
A few more details on how the BBC's coverage is shaping up...

2155-0900 BBC One
David Dimbleby in Elstree with Laura Kuenssberg, Jeremy Vine, Emily Maitlis and Prof John Curtice.
Naga Munchetty - Sunderland
Clive Myrie - Basingstoke
Jane Hill - Swindon
Jo Coburn - Manchester
James Williams - Wales
Mark Devenport - Northern Ireland
Sarah Smith - Scotland
Nick Robinson - travelling from Edinburgh to London

0900-1300 BBC One
Sophie Raworth in Westminster with Andrew Neil.
Victoria Derbyshire - Manchester
Matthew Amroliwala - Brussels

1345-1500 BBC Two (until 1800 on the news channel)
Huw Edwards in Downing Street with Jane Hill and Vicki Young.
Last edited by Blake Connolly on 22 June 2016 10:16pm
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A former member
I take it thats only if its a remain?
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UBox
I'm surprised Channel 4 have continued commercial breaks throughout this program. In terms of the content I like the graph although I'm surprised its not still 100% undecided because they're not getting much time to speak.
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News96
Tonight's Ten is coming from the Election Studio

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mark Founding member
Hope the BBC retire that set after the referendum - getting bored of it now.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
I think all these EU debates have tended, given half a chance, to degrade into slanging matches and shouting each other down and there comes a point where you're not having a debate but an argument with each other not over the issue in question but in general.

Debate became so intense 4HD dog ran off and didn't come back at about 22:07. Must be all the shouting going on, poor thing. Wink

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