TI
Go back a few pages in this thread and you will see the rationale for their being no exit poll. Similar to how it was in Scotland.
WO
There may not be an exit poll, but I certainly remember Professor John Curtis on the BBC giving a prediction on what the Scottish Referendum result would likely be on the night, based on some data he'd put together which turned out to be reasonably accurate.
As has already been said, we won't know for definite how it will pan out until the first swathe of votes have been declared and what the swing has been in the in, out and more inportantly undecided areas.
Certainly makes it more 'interesting' than knowing the result or close to it through an exit poll at 10pm.
As has already been said, we won't know for definite how it will pan out until the first swathe of votes have been declared and what the swing has been in the in, out and more inportantly undecided areas.
Certainly makes it more 'interesting' than knowing the result or close to it through an exit poll at 10pm.
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CI
I think you're really underestimating how big that decision is. If we leave, there will be huge ramifications. As the pound plummets, Cameron's under immense pressure, Sturgeon calls for another Scottish referendum and the stock markets go crazy, do you really expect to see Escape to the Country and Judge Rinder on the main channels?
Yes, yes I do expect to see them on the main channels. Because the stuff you're talking about is all post the referendum result. We'll know the result before the UK Stock Market opens at 8am, but honestly, if we vote to remain, there's no need to do the 1.45pm show on BBC2, and probably no need to do the 9am show on BBC1. ITV will probably be able to get away without doing the 9.25am roundup, though that would be preferable to Jeremy Kyle and the trash TV he produces. If we vote to leave, then you probably need that show on BBC2, and definitely need the BBC1 show.
If the vote is to leave, I expect that part of the coverage to move across from BBC Two to BBC One and go up to 6pm, with probable changes in peak time as well.
That certainly was the plan should there have been a leave vote in Scotland, can't imagine it'd be too different this time.
I don't think they'll not show Pointless. If there is extended coverage, it'll be until 5.15pm, then you'll have Pointless. The BBC News at Ten will probably be extended. The One Show may get replaced by a BBC News Special, but that's probably about as much as they'll do, and to be honest, I will be surprised if they do that.
The schedule I most expect to change in the case of a leave result will be Channel 4. I would be very surprised if we don't see an extra half-hour edition at Noon that day, and to be honest, I'd expect a Channel 4 News Morning Report at 7am. I'm surprised that that hasn't been considered a possible option.
I think you're really underestimating how big that decision is. If we leave, there will be huge ramifications. As the pound plummets, Cameron's under immense pressure, Sturgeon calls for another Scottish referendum and the stock markets go crazy, do you really expect to see Escape to the Country and Judge Rinder on the main channels?
Yes, yes I do expect to see them on the main channels. Because the stuff you're talking about is all post the referendum result. We'll know the result before the UK Stock Market opens at 8am, but honestly, if we vote to remain, there's no need to do the 1.45pm show on BBC2, and probably no need to do the 9am show on BBC1. ITV will probably be able to get away without doing the 9.25am roundup, though that would be preferable to Jeremy Kyle and the trash TV he produces. If we vote to leave, then you probably need that show on BBC2, and definitely need the BBC1 show.
If the vote is to leave, I expect that part of the coverage to move across from BBC Two to BBC One and go up to 6pm, with probable changes in peak time as well.
That certainly was the plan should there have been a leave vote in Scotland, can't imagine it'd be too different this time.
I don't think they'll not show Pointless. If there is extended coverage, it'll be until 5.15pm, then you'll have Pointless. The BBC News at Ten will probably be extended. The One Show may get replaced by a BBC News Special, but that's probably about as much as they'll do, and to be honest, I will be surprised if they do that.
The schedule I most expect to change in the case of a leave result will be Channel 4. I would be very surprised if we don't see an extra half-hour edition at Noon that day, and to be honest, I'd expect a Channel 4 News Morning Report at 7am. I'm surprised that that hasn't been considered a possible option.
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A former member
You really are clueless about this.
CI
No, I'm just making my own judgment calls, just like the people who will be making the decisions about the schedules on the day will. Just because you wouldn't do things the way I'm suggesting, doesn't make me clueless or you clueless.
You really are clueless about this.
No, I'm just making my own judgment calls, just like the people who will be making the decisions about the schedules on the day will. Just because you wouldn't do things the way I'm suggesting, doesn't make me clueless or you clueless.
SP
I find that quite surprising that a station whose TSA is hundreds of miles away from the referendum has the same restrictions as a station broadcasting to the area holding a referendum.
Resonance FM (in London) got their wrists slapped by Ofcom for broadcasting a programme which showed its support for the Scottish independence campaign, on polling day. (It was actually a repeat of a programme which had been on two days previously, and the original broadcast was found to be in breach of due impartiality rules)
The ruling can be found here. [pdf]
The ruling can be found here. [pdf]
I find that quite surprising that a station whose TSA is hundreds of miles away from the referendum has the same restrictions as a station broadcasting to the area holding a referendum.
CI
I find that quite surprising that a station whose TSA is hundreds of miles away from the referendum has the same restrictions as a station broadcasting to the area holding a referendum.
But Resonance FM can be heard in Scotland, online, just like every other station in the UK.
Resonance FM (in London) got their wrists slapped by Ofcom for broadcasting a programme which showed its support for the Scottish independence campaign, on polling day. (It was actually a repeat of a programme which had been on two days previously, and the original broadcast was found to be in breach of due impartiality rules)
The ruling can be found here. [pdf]
The ruling can be found here. [pdf]
I find that quite surprising that a station whose TSA is hundreds of miles away from the referendum has the same restrictions as a station broadcasting to the area holding a referendum.
But Resonance FM can be heard in Scotland, online, just like every other station in the UK.
SP
As can any number of internet radio stations who are outside of Ofcom's jurisdiction.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
It's one size fits all regulation that sees a London community radio station put on the naughty step despite having no influence in Scotland.
DE
Community Radio isn't immune to Ofcom rules though, never has been. If you're broadcasting in this country you have to fit in with the rules, and now that most stations are streamed on the Internet, you can't claim you're too far away not to influence a vote.
Many years ago I worked on a community radio station that, a few times a year, broadcast for a month on a restricted service licence on FM. Although many of us were completely new to broadcasting, we all had to know the rules and what was and wasn't permitted. It was very much adhered to. We even had an Obit procedure.
Many years ago I worked on a community radio station that, a few times a year, broadcast for a month on a restricted service licence on FM. Although many of us were completely new to broadcasting, we all had to know the rules and what was and wasn't permitted. It was very much adhered to. We even had an Obit procedure.