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US Election Night: Domestic Coverage

(November 2008)

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PE
Pete Founding member
TVN posted:
BBC on 175
CNN and ABC on 174

This confirms that the difference shown is Maine


I'm still unsure as to why Maine would throw the vote
NI
Nicky
dvboy posted:
ITV/NBC are the only to not call Arkansas still which is why their 70 is 6 behind BBC/ABC.

I've given up trying to work out what Sky have called that the others haven't.


...and ITV have now changed to 76.
DV
dvboy
BBCNicky posted:
flaziola posted:
Points after 2am
Network Obama McCain
BBC 171:61
Sky 134:69
ITV 103:58
CNN 174:49


ITV now saying 175:70..


Really should give them chance to update their figures before posting them. Sky still lagging behind but they are all pretty much level.


ITV taking an interview from NBC now (from a time when it was 103:58, and ITV have for some reason taken their own graphics off for it.
DV
dvboy
Hymagumba posted:
TVN posted:
BBC on 175
CNN and ABC on 174

This confirms that the difference shown is Maine


I'm still unsure as to why Maine would throw the vote


I understand it now. No doubt someone else will have explained this too by the time I finish typing. Maine use proportional representation i.e. their 4 votes can be split between the two. ABC report 3 are to Obama and the other has not been called while the BBC are mistakenly calling the whole state to Obama.
PE
Pete Founding member
"FOX NEWS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH" Dimbleby

as noticed by the all seeing hillary
DV
dvboy
Did Sky call West Virginia to McCain earlier? Because that would explain why they have 81 for him while the BBC and ITV have 76,
TV
TVN
Hymagumba posted:
TVN posted:
BBC on 175
CNN and ABC on 174

This confirms that the difference shown is Maine


I'm still unsure as to why Maine would throw the vote


Maine uses a proportional representation system. E.g. 75% of votes for Obama would give 3 votes in the college, and give McCain one (for 25%). If a certain threshold is crossed (I am not quite sure what this is), then 4 votes would go to Obama.

The BBC are declaring 4 votes for Obama (I seriously think that this is an oversight and they are assuming Maine is winner takes all).

It seems that ABC are declaring 3 votes for Obama, and are unsure as to whether he will cross the threshold to claim all 4 votes or whether McCain will win one of them.

CNN are certainly witholding the 4th vote from Obama.

The only two states that use PR are Maine and Nebraska. The rest use winner takes all.

Hope this helps
FO
fodg09
Martin Stanford's touchscreen stuff has been brilliant,much more insightful than anything I have seen on the US networks.
TV
TVN
dvboy posted:
Hymagumba posted:
TVN posted:
BBC on 175
CNN and ABC on 174

This confirms that the difference shown is Maine


I'm still unsure as to why Maine would throw the vote


I understand it now. No doubt someone else will have explained this too by the time I finish typing. Maine use proportional representation i.e. their 4 votes can be split between the two. ABC report 3 are to Obama and the other has not been called while the BBC are mistakenly calling the whole state to Obama.


That's it
FL
flaziola
At the 2:15 point
CNN 174:64
Sky 175:81
BBC 175:76
ITV 175:76
PT
Paul T
dvboy posted:
Hymagumba posted:
TVN posted:
BBC on 175
CNN and ABC on 174

This confirms that the difference shown is Maine


I'm still unsure as to why Maine would throw the vote


I understand it now. No doubt someone else will have explained this too by the time I finish typing. Maine use proportional representation i.e. their 4 votes can be split between the two. ABC report 3 are to Obama and the other has not been called while the BBC are mistakenly calling the whole state to Obama.


Though ABC never implied they were doing that, either on TV or on their website. That said, they have upped the Obama count to 175 now (without explaining why on air - unless I missed it).

EDIT: Spoke too soon - they have just said on air they are giving the 4th vote to Obama. That was it all along. (Should note I always understood the PR thing, just ABC not making things clear).
FO
fodg09
dvboy posted:
Did Sky call West Virginia to McCain earlier? Because that would explain why they have 81 for him while the BBC and ITV have 76,


Yes they did.

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