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That sounds a lot like the BBC Parliament rebroadcast of BBC Scotland's Scottish elections coverage a couple of years back. Not sure what you can do, other than trying the BBC1 Audio Desc or BBC1 England feed (up in the 850s & 860s).
*watching on Freeview*
salfordjohn posted:
well - i'm in manchester watching it through Virgin!!
Both BBC1 and News Channel giving me a poor picture (can only describe it as 'not crisp' as if not tuned in properly like if I was upstairs watching my portable TV with a coathanger for an aerial!!!) But it only seems to affect the camera shots from MillBank studio, the graphics are all crisp and all the OBs and Emily etc are crisp!!
Both BBC1 and News Channel giving me a poor picture (can only describe it as 'not crisp' as if not tuned in properly like if I was upstairs watching my portable TV with a coathanger for an aerial!!!) But it only seems to affect the camera shots from MillBank studio, the graphics are all crisp and all the OBs and Emily etc are crisp!!
That sounds a lot like the BBC Parliament rebroadcast of BBC Scotland's Scottish elections coverage a couple of years back. Not sure what you can do, other than trying the BBC1 Audio Desc or BBC1 England feed (up in the 850s & 860s).
*watching on Freeview*
BH
BillyH
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I miss Ming's Bling.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4750/mingsbling1as0.jpg
Gotta love the mayoral candidates as cartoon characters, though!
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4750/mingsbling1as0.jpg
Gotta love the mayoral candidates as cartoon characters, though!
NG
There are some quite well keyed "fake" panels in the wideshot - though with some clever keying to allow the real people's heads to overlap them. You can just see the edges are a bit "aliasy" and some gribbling on the foreground keying.
As for the picture quality - yep - the Millbank studio cameras don't look very good at all - terrible fixed pattern noise. (Thomson 1707s are not exactly great cameras... The last French cameras Thomson sold)
The cameras at the City Hall OB and the ITN VR studio look much better....
noggin
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salfordjohn posted:
clever studio though - where are the cameras pointing at Nick Robinson and Charles Kennedy?? Where are they hiding them?
There are some quite well keyed "fake" panels in the wideshot - though with some clever keying to allow the real people's heads to overlap them. You can just see the edges are a bit "aliasy" and some gribbling on the foreground keying.
As for the picture quality - yep - the Millbank studio cameras don't look very good at all - terrible fixed pattern noise. (Thomson 1707s are not exactly great cameras... The last French cameras Thomson sold)
The cameras at the City Hall OB and the ITN VR studio look much better....
NG
Suspect the graphics and titles look nice and sharp and it is just the studio that looks poor? If so - nothing wrong with your signal or your telly - the studio cameras are not looking too hot. Does the Jeremy Vine virtual studio look much better?
I'm watching BBC One London and BBC News 24 on DSat - and the main studio doesn't look brilliant on either...
noggin
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salfordjohn posted:
my picture quality is quite poor on this!! was fine on Question Time, is also fine when they go to Emily Maitlis, but the studio with Dimbleby et al seems to be producing a bad quality picture?? anyone else??
Suspect the graphics and titles look nice and sharp and it is just the studio that looks poor? If so - nothing wrong with your signal or your telly - the studio cameras are not looking too hot. Does the Jeremy Vine virtual studio look much better?
I'm watching BBC One London and BBC News 24 on DSat - and the main studio doesn't look brilliant on either...
SA
Suspect the graphics and titles look nice and sharp and it is just the studio that looks poor? If so - nothing wrong with your signal or your telly - the studio cameras are not looking too hot. Does the Jeremy Vine virtual studio look much better?
I'm watching BBC One London and BBC News 24 on DSat - and the main studio doesn't look brilliant on either...
Yeah Noggin - You got the same as me - just not a crisp picture from Dimbleby's studio. Jeremy/Emily everything else OK.
noggin posted:
salfordjohn posted:
my picture quality is quite poor on this!! was fine on Question Time, is also fine when they go to Emily Maitlis, but the studio with Dimbleby et al seems to be producing a bad quality picture?? anyone else??
Suspect the graphics and titles look nice and sharp and it is just the studio that looks poor? If so - nothing wrong with your signal or your telly - the studio cameras are not looking too hot. Does the Jeremy Vine virtual studio look much better?
I'm watching BBC One London and BBC News 24 on DSat - and the main studio doesn't look brilliant on either...
Yeah Noggin - You got the same as me - just not a crisp picture from Dimbleby's studio. Jeremy/Emily everything else OK.
NG
BBC One Audio Description I think... Though I thought all BBC One channels carried AD on DSat - it was just ITV1 that had a separate ITV1 AD channel in the 900s for those outside London - as only ITV1 London has AD on DSat?
noggin
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salfordjohn posted:
thanks for that matey. BTW what does BBC1 Audio Desc mean?
BBC One Audio Description I think... Though I thought all BBC One channels carried AD on DSat - it was just ITV1 that had a separate ITV1 AD channel in the 900s for those outside London - as only ITV1 London has AD on DSat?
SA
BBC One Audio Description I think... Though I thought all BBC One channels carried AD on DSat - it was just ITV1 that had a separate ITV1 AD channel in the 900s for those outside London - as only ITV1 London has AD on DSat?
and what's the point of having an Audio Description channel??
noggin posted:
salfordjohn posted:
thanks for that matey. BTW what does BBC1 Audio Desc mean?
BBC One Audio Description I think... Though I thought all BBC One channels carried AD on DSat - it was just ITV1 that had a separate ITV1 AD channel in the 900s for those outside London - as only ITV1 London has AD on DSat?
and what's the point of having an Audio Description channel??
IT
Suspect the graphics and titles look nice and sharp and it is just the studio that looks poor? If so - nothing wrong with your signal or your telly - the studio cameras are not looking too hot. Does the Jeremy Vine virtual studio look much better?
I'm watching BBC One London and BBC News 24 on DSat - and the main studio doesn't look brilliant on either...
Yes, it is definitely the cameras in the studio. I'm watching BBC One North West on Freeview and it's exactly the same - graphics, titles, Jeremy's virtual stuff all nice and crisp. It's just the studio that's crap quality. As a semi-regular viewer of The Daily Politics, I can confirm that it is the same on that programme as well, which comes from the same studio.
itsrobert
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noggin posted:
salfordjohn posted:
my picture quality is quite poor on this!! was fine on Question Time, is also fine when they go to Emily Maitlis, but the studio with Dimbleby et al seems to be producing a bad quality picture?? anyone else??
Suspect the graphics and titles look nice and sharp and it is just the studio that looks poor? If so - nothing wrong with your signal or your telly - the studio cameras are not looking too hot. Does the Jeremy Vine virtual studio look much better?
I'm watching BBC One London and BBC News 24 on DSat - and the main studio doesn't look brilliant on either...
Yes, it is definitely the cameras in the studio. I'm watching BBC One North West on Freeview and it's exactly the same - graphics, titles, Jeremy's virtual stuff all nice and crisp. It's just the studio that's crap quality. As a semi-regular viewer of The Daily Politics, I can confirm that it is the same on that programme as well, which comes from the same studio.
DE
I get the impression they cocked up the first regional opt royally! Dimbleby threw to the regions some three or four minutes early and after a rather pregnant pause carried on the chat. Nothing opted on BBC One South, I flicked through Sky a bit and saw that a few regions opted (I think East Midlands was one that managed) but most had stayed with London. Then Dimbleby appeared to apologise and say that the regional coverage throw hadn't 'worked' so he was going to try again ... cue the opt! What a cock up.
As for the nations joining the coverage, BBC One NI's opt in was woeful (at 0005), just a BBC One Kites symbol, a locally played title sequence then a quick fade via black and crash into the coverage midway through a Tessa Jowell rant. Wales managed a much cleaner opt (at 0010), by introducing the programme then joining their regional coverage. Their regional presenter welcome viewers and explained how they'd be joining the London programme in 10 minutes.
I suppose the election's no big thing in Northern Ireland, but is massive in Wales as all authorities are up for re-election, but even so, you'd think they'd have made some effort in Belfast to arrange for a cleanish opt in!
As for the nations joining the coverage, BBC One NI's opt in was woeful (at 0005), just a BBC One Kites symbol, a locally played title sequence then a quick fade via black and crash into the coverage midway through a Tessa Jowell rant. Wales managed a much cleaner opt (at 0010), by introducing the programme then joining their regional coverage. Their regional presenter welcome viewers and explained how they'd be joining the London programme in 10 minutes.
I suppose the election's no big thing in Northern Ireland, but is massive in Wales as all authorities are up for re-election, but even so, you'd think they'd have made some effort in Belfast to arrange for a cleanish opt in!