CO
can i just say that i was extremely impressed by BBC1/News 24's coverage of the General Election 2005. Great presenters, great lineup, professional analysis, debate and comment.
David Dimbleby is just fantastic - Andrew Marr, Anna Ford, Fiona Bruce, Natasha Kaplinsky, Brian Taylor, Huw Edwards, Jackie Bird, Anne Mackenzie, Jeremy Paxman and senior guests...the coverage of the election from the BBC throughout the UK was outstanding.
I also love the election titles News 24 are currently using...Media 24/7 confirms BBC1 got the highest viewing ratings (terrestrially) Well, they deserve it!
The BBC most certainly, I feel, never lets us down during the election time.
David Dimbleby is just fantastic - Andrew Marr, Anna Ford, Fiona Bruce, Natasha Kaplinsky, Brian Taylor, Huw Edwards, Jackie Bird, Anne Mackenzie, Jeremy Paxman and senior guests...the coverage of the election from the BBC throughout the UK was outstanding.
I also love the election titles News 24 are currently using...Media 24/7 confirms BBC1 got the highest viewing ratings (terrestrially) Well, they deserve it!
The BBC most certainly, I feel, never lets us down during the election time.
IS
Sky's studio (having spent some time watching the BBC) did look inevitably quite cramped and cold. Those silver screen-backs right in your face didn't really work for me.
I was really looking forward to the vidiprinter- I thought this was a genuinely good idea...but in the end I don't think it worked at all. Broadcasting in just 2/3 of the screen most of the time just looked a bit odd.
Skys desk looked like one of those 1970's console type desk., Think they borrowed it from 1970's quiz show Winner Takes All....
http://www.ukgameshows.com/atoz/programmes/w/winner_takes_all/winner_takes_all1.jpg
Their screen was very cluttered and distracting - there was just far too much infomation using far too many colours and with too much movement and flashing. Like so many broadcasters in the past, they are trying to do a Bloomberg and failed terribly
Dunedin posted:
Sky's studio (having spent some time watching the BBC) did look inevitably quite cramped and cold. Those silver screen-backs right in your face didn't really work for me.
I was really looking forward to the vidiprinter- I thought this was a genuinely good idea...but in the end I don't think it worked at all. Broadcasting in just 2/3 of the screen most of the time just looked a bit odd.
Skys desk looked like one of those 1970's console type desk., Think they borrowed it from 1970's quiz show Winner Takes All....
http://www.ukgameshows.com/atoz/programmes/w/winner_takes_all/winner_takes_all1.jpg
Their screen was very cluttered and distracting - there was just far too much infomation using far too many colours and with too much movement and flashing. Like so many broadcasters in the past, they are trying to do a Bloomberg and failed terribly
AP
BBC was absolutely excellent for me. Brilliant graphics, presenters and lots of live declarations.
BBC always seem to be best for the big events,
BBC always seem to be best for the big events,
LO
Andrew Billen's election coverage review from the New Statesman:
Quote:
And the winner was: ITV
Andrew Billen
Monday 9th May 2005
Election: the night
Andrew Billen watched the clash of titan egos - Paxo v two Dimblebys
David Dimbleby, very likely anchoring his last general election results, came on bouncing: "The voting is almost over. The excitement of election night is about to begin." And who would have thought it? It actually was an exciting night, starting with the exit poll declaring an unexpectedly low Labour majority of 66, continuing with the equally unlikely arrival of Baroness Thatcher at the ITV boat party on the Thames, and producing a spate of results no one was able to interpret. "We all know exit polls may mean nothing - God knows why we spend all this money on them," moaned Jeremy Paxman at 12.06am. "We are going to have to change the way we report elections," mused Andrew Marr 90 minutes later.
It must have looked very different in the planning meetings. In October 1974 also, the BBC expected a Labour landslide and planned to turn its results programme into a party. When it became clear there would be another knife-edge outcome, the party was abandoned. This time, ITV pressed ahead with its own, and for a while it looked as if the ITV anchor, Jonathan Dimbleby, would find himself turning away from the key marginals because someone from Emmerdale had arrived. In fact, Germaine Greer, Maureen Lipman, Greg Dyke, Ian Hislop et al were better-value guests than the station could have dared hope - and by a mile less embarrassing than Jon Culshaw entertaining Natasha Kaplinsky at the rival BBC bash with his impressions.
The BBC's coverage came from a huge, underpopulated studio in TV Centre that actually had a window overlooking a tree - a touch of reality in a virtual-reality election. Even this arena was not quite large enough to contain the competing egos of Dimbleby and Paxman, with Dimbleby ticking Paxo off for failing to control a near-riot involving Charlie Falconer, Boris Johnson, Shirley Williams (who should be ashamed of herself) and Hislop, and Paxo refusing to call Dimbleby by his first name. "I've got to hand back to David Dimbleby." "You don't have to." "I want to: the nation is waiting to hear from you . . ." It got wearisome. Upstairs, back in virtual reality, Peter Snow manipulated industrial-weight swingometers and election maps that sighed hydraulically.
His graphics were better than ITV's but the night found Alastair Stewart (the ITN team's Snow) in equivalent good form. Its political editor, Nick Robinson, also performed strongly, although hampered by a computer called Elvis that made everything that much less clear. But there were some nice packages from ITV, including a film by Michael Portillo about losing in 1997. Even the Day Today-ish idea of having Gerald
Scarfe draw cartoons in the studio paid off. Despite a haphazard
way with the results and Jonathan's stumblings by 2am, I surprised myself by mentally declaring the night a win for ITV.
Andrew Billen
Monday 9th May 2005
Election: the night
Andrew Billen watched the clash of titan egos - Paxo v two Dimblebys
David Dimbleby, very likely anchoring his last general election results, came on bouncing: "The voting is almost over. The excitement of election night is about to begin." And who would have thought it? It actually was an exciting night, starting with the exit poll declaring an unexpectedly low Labour majority of 66, continuing with the equally unlikely arrival of Baroness Thatcher at the ITV boat party on the Thames, and producing a spate of results no one was able to interpret. "We all know exit polls may mean nothing - God knows why we spend all this money on them," moaned Jeremy Paxman at 12.06am. "We are going to have to change the way we report elections," mused Andrew Marr 90 minutes later.
It must have looked very different in the planning meetings. In October 1974 also, the BBC expected a Labour landslide and planned to turn its results programme into a party. When it became clear there would be another knife-edge outcome, the party was abandoned. This time, ITV pressed ahead with its own, and for a while it looked as if the ITV anchor, Jonathan Dimbleby, would find himself turning away from the key marginals because someone from Emmerdale had arrived. In fact, Germaine Greer, Maureen Lipman, Greg Dyke, Ian Hislop et al were better-value guests than the station could have dared hope - and by a mile less embarrassing than Jon Culshaw entertaining Natasha Kaplinsky at the rival BBC bash with his impressions.
The BBC's coverage came from a huge, underpopulated studio in TV Centre that actually had a window overlooking a tree - a touch of reality in a virtual-reality election. Even this arena was not quite large enough to contain the competing egos of Dimbleby and Paxman, with Dimbleby ticking Paxo off for failing to control a near-riot involving Charlie Falconer, Boris Johnson, Shirley Williams (who should be ashamed of herself) and Hislop, and Paxo refusing to call Dimbleby by his first name. "I've got to hand back to David Dimbleby." "You don't have to." "I want to: the nation is waiting to hear from you . . ." It got wearisome. Upstairs, back in virtual reality, Peter Snow manipulated industrial-weight swingometers and election maps that sighed hydraulically.
His graphics were better than ITV's but the night found Alastair Stewart (the ITN team's Snow) in equivalent good form. Its political editor, Nick Robinson, also performed strongly, although hampered by a computer called Elvis that made everything that much less clear. But there were some nice packages from ITV, including a film by Michael Portillo about losing in 1997. Even the Day Today-ish idea of having Gerald
Scarfe draw cartoons in the studio paid off. Despite a haphazard
way with the results and Jonathan's stumblings by 2am, I surprised myself by mentally declaring the night a win for ITV.
RD
rdd
Founding member
Is it just me, or does UTV's theme for the elections sound a bit like "The Big Country"??? Wierd.
They certainly seem to have gone for a replica of the network look for their desk and logo, though their astons are different.
BBC NI meanwhile gettting News 24-esqe astons for the election. The wierdest thing about BBC NI, is of course what they are using their ticker for. You can text in messages., people were using it to say hi to their teachers!!!
On to RTE - what the hell did they do on Six-One tonight? Tried to run their usual title sequence but had no sound and left it half way through. Then they ran their election titles into and out of breaks, now reading "Westminister Elections" (it earlier read "Northern Ireland Elections", and last night said "Britain Decides". Wierd). No end titles at all, cut straight to an RTE ONE menu,
Last nights programme was of decent quality, but started too late and ended too early. They could have taken one of the UK networks for the rest of the night, though everyone in Ireland interested probably has them anyway. They were using a similar studio for their NI election coverage today, and it seemed to be in 14:9 too. Astons were the same today as last night.
CNN had a title sequence featuring Blair, Howard, and Kennedy made up of blue and red, and a DOG featuring a UK flag and "UK Election 2005".
Lastly... no ones mentioned that BBC World didn't take the BBC ONE coverage, but did their own thing! The graphics had changed colour to black and it came from a different studio. The biggest question is why they bothered at all...they could have just taken BBC ONE.
They certainly seem to have gone for a replica of the network look for their desk and logo, though their astons are different.
BBC NI meanwhile gettting News 24-esqe astons for the election. The wierdest thing about BBC NI, is of course what they are using their ticker for. You can text in messages., people were using it to say hi to their teachers!!!
On to RTE - what the hell did they do on Six-One tonight? Tried to run their usual title sequence but had no sound and left it half way through. Then they ran their election titles into and out of breaks, now reading "Westminister Elections" (it earlier read "Northern Ireland Elections", and last night said "Britain Decides". Wierd). No end titles at all, cut straight to an RTE ONE menu,
Last nights programme was of decent quality, but started too late and ended too early. They could have taken one of the UK networks for the rest of the night, though everyone in Ireland interested probably has them anyway. They were using a similar studio for their NI election coverage today, and it seemed to be in 14:9 too. Astons were the same today as last night.
CNN had a title sequence featuring Blair, Howard, and Kennedy made up of blue and red, and a DOG featuring a UK flag and "UK Election 2005".
Lastly... no ones mentioned that BBC World didn't take the BBC ONE coverage, but did their own thing! The graphics had changed colour to black and it came from a different studio. The biggest question is why they bothered at all...they could have just taken BBC ONE.
KE
Was the UTV theme not the same as the ITV News election programme?
According to eariler posts i think the RTÉ Election programming was coming from BBC TVC in London, that could be why it was in widescreen.
I watched a bit of the BBC World programme, and thought it was quite good, i think taking the BBC One coverage may have been too in-depth for an international audience, they just diped in and out of the main BBC One programme and had people in The World studio talking about what it might mean.
PS does have screen caps of CNN or RTÉ coverage. thanks
rdd posted:
Is it just me, or does UTV's theme for the elections sound a bit like "The Big Country"??? Wierd.
They certainly seem to have gone for a replica of the network look for their desk and logo, though their astons are different.
BBC NI meanwhile gettting News 24-esqe astons for the election. The wierdest thing about BBC NI, is of course what they are using their ticker for. You can text in messages., people were using it to say hi to their teachers!!!
On to RTE - what the hell did they do on Six-One tonight? Tried to run their usual title sequence but had no sound and left it half way through. Then they ran their election titles into and out of breaks, now reading "Westminister Elections" (it earlier read "Northern Ireland Elections", and last night said "Britain Decides". Wierd). No end titles at all, cut straight to an RTE ONE menu,
Last nights programme was of decent quality, but started too late and ended too early. They could have taken one of the UK networks for the rest of the night, though everyone in Ireland interested probably has them anyway. They were using a similar studio for their NI election coverage today, and it seemed to be in 14:9 too. Astons were the same today as last night.
CNN had a title sequence featuring Blair, Howard, and Kennedy made up of blue and red, and a DOG featuring a UK flag and "UK Election 2005".
Lastly... no ones mentioned that BBC World didn't take the BBC ONE coverage, but did their own thing! The graphics had changed colour to black and it came from a different studio. The biggest question is why they bothered at all...they could have just taken BBC ONE.
They certainly seem to have gone for a replica of the network look for their desk and logo, though their astons are different.
BBC NI meanwhile gettting News 24-esqe astons for the election. The wierdest thing about BBC NI, is of course what they are using their ticker for. You can text in messages., people were using it to say hi to their teachers!!!
On to RTE - what the hell did they do on Six-One tonight? Tried to run their usual title sequence but had no sound and left it half way through. Then they ran their election titles into and out of breaks, now reading "Westminister Elections" (it earlier read "Northern Ireland Elections", and last night said "Britain Decides". Wierd). No end titles at all, cut straight to an RTE ONE menu,
Last nights programme was of decent quality, but started too late and ended too early. They could have taken one of the UK networks for the rest of the night, though everyone in Ireland interested probably has them anyway. They were using a similar studio for their NI election coverage today, and it seemed to be in 14:9 too. Astons were the same today as last night.
CNN had a title sequence featuring Blair, Howard, and Kennedy made up of blue and red, and a DOG featuring a UK flag and "UK Election 2005".
Lastly... no ones mentioned that BBC World didn't take the BBC ONE coverage, but did their own thing! The graphics had changed colour to black and it came from a different studio. The biggest question is why they bothered at all...they could have just taken BBC ONE.
Was the UTV theme not the same as the ITV News election programme?
According to eariler posts i think the RTÉ Election programming was coming from BBC TVC in London, that could be why it was in widescreen.
I watched a bit of the BBC World programme, and thought it was quite good, i think taking the BBC One coverage may have been too in-depth for an international audience, they just diped in and out of the main BBC One programme and had people in The World studio talking about what it might mean.
PS does have screen caps of CNN or RTÉ coverage. thanks
AP
I've just discovered that the BBC Election logo is exactly coloured representing the 2001 Election results. 
Apologies if it's been discussed before, but I've just realised.
Apologies if it's been discussed before, but I've just realised.
LE
Oops, sorry about this. Moved the video files to a new place, will add whatever else I have there soon...
Election 2005
Election 2005
AN
Yeah, it is definately a better background than the current generic one at the moment.
I T V 1 posted:
I just realised that the ITV Virtual Studio video of the newsroom was live. At the start, it feature Mary Nightingale walking, then it cut to the VR studio showing the view to the bottom of ITV's atrium, and she and the cameraman was in exactley the same place!
Yeah, it is definately a better background than the current generic one at the moment.