MA
This will be my first multi-channel election, so I will probably be flicking between the BBC (because I'm boring and stuck in my old ways) and Sky (because it looks pretty slick)
Kaplinsky posted:
So whose everyone going to be relying on this Thursday night/Friday morning? I think I'll stick with BBC 
This will be my first multi-channel election, so I will probably be flicking between the BBC (because I'm boring and stuck in my old ways) and Sky (because it looks pretty slick)
CA
Tragic politicos that we are, we will be having a couple of TVs, a couples of crates of alcohol, and several dozen pizzas.
I think it'll be the Beeb and Sky on the TVs, because ITV's coverage sounds like it is going to be targetted at possibly the most stupid viewers they can find. Cartoons and celebrities... wayhey.
Plus Bob Worcester will no doubt be making an appearence on ITV, so there's another reason to avoid it.
I think it'll be the Beeb and Sky on the TVs, because ITV's coverage sounds like it is going to be targetted at possibly the most stupid viewers they can find. Cartoons and celebrities... wayhey.
Plus Bob Worcester will no doubt be making an appearence on ITV, so there's another reason to avoid it.
PH
As I mentioned on Sky News Centre's Forums, why don't Sky try and make a double decked studio, using Virtual Graphics, similar to their Millenium coverage. As it is acknowledged there is a shortage of space in the election studio, they could have a green CSO screen style studio somewhere else, and projet that as a second part of the main one. Maybe for example have a walkway for Martin Stanford to present graphics, eg exit polls, swing etc. and then have him walk from that into the virtual Commons. It would just make the whole thing look less cramped and more impressive. I'm sure it could be done without seeming to be obviously very fake.
DU
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real). The Sky News millennium studio just looked a little tacky IMO- I'm sure the brand new studios will make up for this- allowing a big view that's entirely real.
phil-g posted:
As I mentioned on Sky News Centre's Forums, why don't Sky try and make a double decked studio, using Virtual Graphics, similar to their Millenium coverage. As it is acknowledged there is a shortage of space in the election studio, they could have a green CSO screen style studio somewhere else, and projet that as a second part of the main one. Maybe for example have a walkway for Martin Stanford to present graphics, eg exit polls, swing etc. and then have him walk from that into the virtual Commons. It would just make the whole thing look less cramped and more impressive. I'm sure it could be done without seeming to be obviously very fake.
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real). The Sky News millennium studio just looked a little tacky IMO- I'm sure the brand new studios will make up for this- allowing a big view that's entirely real.
MR
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real). The Sky News millennium studio just looked a little tacky IMO- I'm sure the brand new studios will make up for this- allowing a big view that's entirely real.
Totally agree. Virtual sets do have their place, but for a show, such as Sky's election coverage, that will be on air for nearly 18 hours from the same studio, a virtual set would be awful.
Dunedin posted:
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real). The Sky News millennium studio just looked a little tacky IMO- I'm sure the brand new studios will make up for this- allowing a big view that's entirely real.
Totally agree. Virtual sets do have their place, but for a show, such as Sky's election coverage, that will be on air for nearly 18 hours from the same studio, a virtual set would be awful.
JO
I will be flicking around, but mainly Sky News.
FYI, Sky News presenters will be in key seats up and down the country, (Steve Dixon, Anna botting and Lorna Dunkley, to name a few)
Kaplinsky posted:
So whose everyone going to be relying on this Thursday night/Friday morning? I think I'll stick with BBC
I will be flicking around, but mainly Sky News.
FYI, Sky News presenters will be in key seats up and down the country, (Steve Dixon, Anna botting and Lorna Dunkley, to name a few)
CA
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real). The Sky News millennium studio just looked a little tacky IMO- I'm sure the brand new studios will make up for this- allowing a big view that's entirely real.
Totally agree. Virtual sets do have their place, but for a show, such as Sky's election coverage, that will be on air for nearly 18 hours from the same studio, a virtual set would be awful.
But surely this is the point?
It is only on air for 18 hours - actually, I think Sky will be about 23 from the same studio, but still - the massive cost of constructing a giant set with two storeys and a dozen giant screens cannot really be justified. This is particularly the case for Sky, who have probably blown their entire building budget with the new studios they've got.
I think for election night, virtual studios work pretty well. They do provide a vast amount of flexibility and are cost effective.
Fully virtual studios, when done properly, can look good. But I am glad they have gone half and half this time, rather than 100% virtual like last time.
There's only so much you can actually do on election night... most of it is sitting there watching results coming in and saying 'well that's a surprise' and talking about turnout and interviewing politicians. You don't need a studio the size of a football pitch to do that well.
mromega posted:
Dunedin posted:
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real). The Sky News millennium studio just looked a little tacky IMO- I'm sure the brand new studios will make up for this- allowing a big view that's entirely real.
Totally agree. Virtual sets do have their place, but for a show, such as Sky's election coverage, that will be on air for nearly 18 hours from the same studio, a virtual set would be awful.
But surely this is the point?
It is only on air for 18 hours - actually, I think Sky will be about 23 from the same studio, but still - the massive cost of constructing a giant set with two storeys and a dozen giant screens cannot really be justified. This is particularly the case for Sky, who have probably blown their entire building budget with the new studios they've got.
I think for election night, virtual studios work pretty well. They do provide a vast amount of flexibility and are cost effective.
Fully virtual studios, when done properly, can look good. But I am glad they have gone half and half this time, rather than 100% virtual like last time.
There's only so much you can actually do on election night... most of it is sitting there watching results coming in and saying 'well that's a surprise' and talking about turnout and interviewing politicians. You don't need a studio the size of a football pitch to do that well.
OH
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real).
Hmmm,
but ITV's News studio is REAL! It only has a virtual backdrop - exactly like the BBC News - real chairs, real floor and a real desk just with a fake backdrop!
Of course ITV News sometimes use a cso studio for the ITV News Channel when required and also use it for small snippets of the programme like The Briefing. Im sure BBC also use cso for some news reports and of course Peter Snow's swingometer isn't real - is it?
ohwhatanight
Founding member
Dunedin posted:
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real).
Hmmm,
but ITV's News studio is REAL! It only has a virtual backdrop - exactly like the BBC News - real chairs, real floor and a real desk just with a fake backdrop!
Of course ITV News sometimes use a cso studio for the ITV News Channel when required and also use it for small snippets of the programme like The Briefing. Im sure BBC also use cso for some news reports and of course Peter Snow's swingometer isn't real - is it?
MA
FYI, Sky News presenters will be in key seats up and down the country, (Steve Dixon, Anna botting and Lorna Dunkley, to name a few)
Yeah - Steve Dixon's new website says that he will be presenting from 10am to 5pm (when presumably JT takes over) and then heading off to the count in Hove
Johnnie posted:
FYI, Sky News presenters will be in key seats up and down the country, (Steve Dixon, Anna botting and Lorna Dunkley, to name a few)
Yeah - Steve Dixon's new website says that he will be presenting from 10am to 5pm (when presumably JT takes over) and then heading off to the count in Hove
IT
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real).
Hmmm, but ITV's News studio is REAL! It only has a virtual backdrop - exactly like the BBC News - real chairs, real floor and a real desk just with a fake backdrop!
Of course ITV News sometimes use a cso studio for the ITV News Channel when required and also use it for small snippets of the programme like The Briefing. Im sure BBC also use cso for some news reports and of course Peter Snow's swingometer isn't real - is it?
The backdrop is really there, just in a different colour, so it isnt really fake. BBC News background is a fake of a newsroom, whereas ITV news isnt a fake of anything if you think about it. Its just video.
ohwhatanight posted:
Dunedin posted:
I think the days of the virtual studios are dead- they just don't look very good. ITV News just looks awful IMO. I think people much prefer to see a 'real' set (I use inverted commas because parts can be virtual but the majority should be real).
Hmmm,
but ITV's News studio is REAL! It only has a virtual backdrop - exactly like the BBC News - real chairs, real floor and a real desk just with a fake backdrop!
Of course ITV News sometimes use a cso studio for the ITV News Channel when required and also use it for small snippets of the programme like The Briefing. Im sure BBC also use cso for some news reports and of course Peter Snow's swingometer isn't real - is it?
The backdrop is really there, just in a different colour, so it isnt really fake. BBC News background is a fake of a newsroom, whereas ITV news isnt a fake of anything if you think about it. Its just video.