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Schwing247 posts since 13 Oct 2004
BBC World News
Exactly, and it’s probably quite hard to isolate as much as many of us have been doing when you are at the front end running the show is expected to pop up all over the place with various different people, even keeping 2m apart from all those different people.


Not really. Doctors and nurses used to do it all the time through the long-forgotten practice of ‘barrier treatment’ or ‘barrier nursing’. I say this with some insight. My mother is a retired professor in infectious diseases with a specialisation in transmissibility pathways. She worked at the London School of Tropical Medicine, the Royal Free and at Coppetts Wood. She eventually set up the infectious disease unit at Crawley Hospital due to its proximity to Gatwick Airport. The worst she ever handled was Marburg. Google it. It’s one rung down from Ebola. The key to any outbreak is containment. Social distancing is fundamental to containment and it’s easy to isolate, even when working in close quarters.
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Ne1L C1,833 posts since 11 Sep 2011
Exactly, and it’s probably quite hard to isolate as much as many of us have been doing when you are at the front end running the show is expected to pop up all over the place with various different people, even keeping 2m apart from all those different people.


Not really. Doctors and nurses used to do it all the time through the long-forgotten practice of ‘barrier treatment’ or ‘barrier nursing’. I say this with some insight. My mother is a retired professor in infectious diseases with a specialisation in transmissibility pathways. She worked at the London School of Tropical Medicine, the Royal Free and at Coppetts Wood. She eventually set up the infectious disease unit at Crawley Hospital due to its proximity to Gatwick Airport. The worst she ever handled was Marburg. Google it. It’s one rung down from Ebola. The key to any outbreak is containment. Social distancing is fundamental to containment and it’s easy to isolate, even when working in close quarters.



Wow! didn't realise we had so much experience on here. Just had a quick glance at an article about Marburg. Your mother must have had nerves of steel.
Steve in Pudsey10,886 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
And what was the question he asked..?



Mark Austin - "The PM has got the virus, the health secretary has had the virus and the chief medical officer has had the virus. The three people telling us how not to get the virus got the virus. How was that allowed to happen?"

The bit at the end about how it was allowed is simply crass beyond belief.


Well it's not really a question without that bit. I think it's a fair question to query the validity of the advice given that three people you would expect to follow it to the letter have been affected. Particularly when the UK self isolation policy differs from the WHO's. It seems quite proper for a journalist to seek answers on that.
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Pete9,110 posts since 18 Jun 2001
STV North Reporting Scotland
In their questioning some of these hacks seem impatient or even incredulous that this lockdown will not be ended next week. What universe are they inhabiting at the moment? It's not ending next week!!! Infact if anything it's more likely to get tougher. Some of them are coming across as plain daft and with their heads in the clouds.


Right no this is perfectly sensible questioning.

What is happening, is the government is failing to be honest. Journalists can tell when they are being lied to. They could tell they were being lied to over Boris's health, which is why they kept pushing, and lone behold he ends up in intensive care.

The government are not being honest that this is going to go on for ages. They are trying to, by not saying anything, give the impression it might end soon. And they are not being honest about when it does end, it'll be slowly done via stages.

THAT is why they keep pushing. They don't expect them to say "5pm on Tuesday", they expect them to give an answer with a grain of honesty in it. That's why Matt Hancock's first presser after he returned was such a breath of fresh air. He spent time explaining why the government had not been able to do some things, and why it had done others instead. That is what the press want, the detail. And if the government don't give it, they'll keep pushing until they do.
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Pete9,110 posts since 18 Jun 2001
STV North Reporting Scotland
And what was the question he asked..?



Mark Austin - "The PM has got the virus, the health secretary has had the virus and the chief medical officer has had the virus. The three people telling us how not to get the virus got the virus. How was that allowed to happen?"

The bit at the end about how it was allowed is simply crass beyond belief.


It isn't crass in the slightest. They were often seen standing too close together to each other, they all bundled into the House of Commons for budget, they didn't make the press conferences remote until far too late.

It's been a case of do as we say not as we do. If they were naive, or arrogant enough to believe they wouldn't get it then its a perfectly acceptable question to raise - have you been careless yourself, is this evidence of why social distancing is needed, admit your mistakes and be honest,
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In their questioning some of these hacks seem impatient or even incredulous that this lockdown will not be ended next week. What universe are they inhabiting at the moment? It's not ending next week!!! Infact if anything it's more likely to get tougher. Some of them are coming across as plain daft and with their heads in the clouds.


Right no this is perfectly sensible questioning.

What is happening, is the government is failing to be honest. Journalists can tell when they are being lied to. They could tell they were being lied to over Boris's health, which is why they kept pushing, and lone behold he ends up in intensive care.

The government are not being honest that this is going to go on for ages. They are trying to, by not saying anything, give the impression it might end soon. And they are not being honest about when it does end, it'll be slowly done via stages.

THAT is why they keep pushing. They don't expect them to say "5pm on Tuesday", they expect them to give an answer with a grain of honesty in it. That's why Matt Hancock's first presser after he returned was such a breath of fresh air. He spent time explaining why the government had not been able to do some things, and why it had done others instead. That is what the press want, the detail. And if the government don't give it, they'll keep pushing until they do.

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