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CNN International & Domestic

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headliner101 West Country (West) Points West
I would say it's purely a money issue now rather than covid. I'm sure all the international anchors could have done their shows from home in some form.


Could be. It wouldn't surprise me given that CNNI does not have as many external ads as Domestic does. 80-90% of breakfillers on CNNI are internal programme or network promos whereas on Domestic, it's 2/3 ads.
NE
Newsroom
I think some of the opinions here that are way off. CNN have invested millions into their new London headquarters and the situation if anything is down to health and safety, the current news cycle, cost saving, furlough, nothing more, nothing less.

CNN London is staffed by a small percentage of people that staff Sky, BBC and AJE.

We've only seen ONE versatile studio that would need to be sanitised before each presenter swap. (if you watch the BBC News Channel you'll have seen that the outgoing presenter is on his/her feet and at the catwalk some 10 mins before the next presenter arrives. It's obvious that cleaning is conducted during this time, while the desk is cleaned, probably keyboards and mice swapped out etc...

We don't know how many flash studios are operational at CNN London. They were on air so so briefly before CV happened, I doubt they've barely scratched the surface with we will be treated to when things get back to normal.

News Cycle - With Covid being a global pandemic and with it being a US presidential election year, we were bound to be engulfed with Domestic programming and that makes perfect sense to me. We're not even through January and we've already seen a massive news story with the Insurrection of the US Capitol, the 2nd Impeachment of #45 and so on.

Things are not normal by any means, but CNNI is going nowhere. In fact, the huge influx in ratings and with that comes advertisers suggest the opposite - it's positively flying!
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headliner101 West Country (West) Points West
True they have just made an invesetment in a new headquarters. Advertising is an intriguing (and somewhat complicated) point to discuss, though. Right now when people are hurting financially, it becomes tricky to justify advertising budgets. So even if advertisements exist, there is a smaller cash inflow to CNN than normal. And with Zucker abusing the concept of Breaking News to cover trivial stuff, those ads expected to air do not get aired as much as originally contracted to.
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Meridian AM Meridian (South) South Today
I would say it's purely a money issue now rather than covid. I'm sure all the international anchors could have done their shows from home in some form.


Could be. It wouldn't surprise me given that CNNI does not have as many external ads as Domestic does. 80-90% of breakfillers on CNNI are internal programme or network promos whereas on Domestic, it's 2/3 ads.


No, it depends which CNNI feed you are watching. The commercial breaks are local - there are several 'feeds' of CNNI around the world.
If you watch the Europe/Africa feed of CNNI on Sky 506, yes, the breaks are mainly network promos. But a lot of local adverts are added into other regions' feeds while you are seeing those network promos. (In the same way that in Asia, they see Asian city names in the 30 second weather filler rather than Europe/Africa/Middle East ones like us.)
Even if you watch CNNI via Samsung "TV Plus" in the UK, you will see inserted UK adverts (ie the same ads you'd see on ITV) where the network promos are shown on Sky 506.
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itsrobert Founding member Granada North West Today
I think some of the opinions here that are way off. CNN have invested millions into their new London headquarters and the situation if anything is down to health and safety, the current news cycle, cost saving, furlough, nothing more, nothing less.

CNN London is staffed by a small percentage of people that staff Sky, BBC and AJE.

We've only seen ONE versatile studio that would need to be sanitised before each presenter swap. (if you watch the BBC News Channel you'll have seen that the outgoing presenter is on his/her feet and at the catwalk some 10 mins before the next presenter arrives. It's obvious that cleaning is conducted during this time, while the desk is cleaned, probably keyboards and mice swapped out etc...

We don't know how many flash studios are operational at CNN London. They were on air so so briefly before CV happened, I doubt they've barely scratched the surface with we will be treated to when things get back to normal.

News Cycle - With Covid being a global pandemic and with it being a US presidential election year, we were bound to be engulfed with Domestic programming and that makes perfect sense to me. We're not even through January and we've already seen a massive news story with the Insurrection of the US Capitol, the 2nd Impeachment of #45 and so on.

Things are not normal by any means, but CNNI is going nowhere. In fact, the huge influx in ratings and with that comes advertisers suggest the opposite - it's positively flying!

I agree - as much as I have enjoyed the Domestic coverage lately, now that Biden is settling in and there aren't at least ten Trump dramas everyday, I'm only dipping into CNN once or twice a day. As time goes on and hopefully US politics settles down, will people around the world really be interested in the minutiae of US news? Like you say, 2020 has been a big year (and, indeed, 2016-2021 due to the Trump circus) and so there has been a lot of international interest in the US. If things settle down again as I hope they will, I think there will be less demand for US news and more for international news again. That's when CNN International output will be needed once more.

Is CNN still based at Great Marlborough Street in London? I had a tour around the complex in 2006 and from what I can remember it wasn't exactly huge. So maybe it's pretty hard to follow the various social distancing and cleaning rules? It's hardly fair to compare CNN in London with the BBC or Sky whose main headquarters are in London. Of course they are going to have more space and infrastructure to ensure safe operation during the pandemic.
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CNN in London will have done their risk assessments, there will be all sorts of reasons why they can only do one show a day. They have clearly made a decision to prioritise Amanpour, even if Christiane presents it from home, and it would still need a crew to put it together. There may be issues in keeping the studio Covid-secure, reduced staff due to sickness and/or self-isolation, and I wonder if some of the equipment that would usually get the London studio on air is now in Amanpour's front room instead.
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dvboy posted:
CNN in London will have done their risk assessments, there will be all sorts of reasons why they can only do one show a day. They have clearly made a decision to prioritise Amanpour, even if Christiane presents it from home, and it would still need a crew to put it together. There may be issues in keeping the studio Covid-secure, reduced staff due to sickness and/or self-isolation, and I wonder if some of the equipment that would usually get the London studio on air is now in Amanpour's front room instead.


Max Foster was broadcasting from the London studio recently. This point goes back to my point that there needs to be a period of sanitization before someone else can use it. CNNI probably can’t justify the expenditure or want to open up their spanking new bureau until it can 100%.

Amanpour from home works well as it is. Would be great if a few more shows could re-emerge, but unlikely at the moment. London’s extended its lockdown just today. Cyril remains in France, Bianca was forthcoming with her situation.

We just have sit tight.

Advertising is a complex issue yes, but I’m a user of IPTV and have access to quite a few feeds, all very similar these days tbh.
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I think some of the opinions here that are way off. CNN have invested millions into their new London headquarters and the situation if anything is down to health and safety, the current news cycle, cost saving, furlough, nothing more, nothing less.

CNN London is staffed by a small percentage of people that staff Sky, BBC and AJE.

We've only seen ONE versatile studio that would need to be sanitised before each presenter swap. (if you watch the BBC News Channel you'll have seen that the outgoing presenter is on his/her feet and at the catwalk some 10 mins before the next presenter arrives. It's obvious that cleaning is conducted during this time, while the desk is cleaned, probably keyboards and mice swapped out etc...

We don't know how many flash studios are operational at CNN London. They were on air so so briefly before CV happened, I doubt they've barely scratched the surface with we will be treated to when things get back to normal.

News Cycle - With Covid being a global pandemic and with it being a US presidential election year, we were bound to be engulfed with Domestic programming and that makes perfect sense to me. We're not even through January and we've already seen a massive news story with the Insurrection of the US Capitol, the 2nd Impeachment of #45 and so on.

Things are not normal by any means, but CNNI is going nowhere. In fact, the huge influx in ratings and with that comes advertisers suggest the opposite - it's positively flying!

I agree - as much as I have enjoyed the Domestic coverage lately, now that Biden is settling in and there aren't at least ten Trump dramas everyday, I'm only dipping into CNN once or twice a day. As time goes on and hopefully US politics settles down, will people around the world really be interested in the minutiae of US news? Like you say, 2020 has been a big year (and, indeed, 2016-2021 due to the Trump circus) and so there has been a lot of international interest in the US. If things settle down again as I hope they will, I think there will be less demand for US news and more for international news again. That's when CNN International output will be needed once more.

Is CNN still based at Great Marlborough Street in London? I had a tour around the complex in 2006 and from what I can remember it wasn't exactly huge. So maybe it's pretty hard to follow the various social distancing and cleaning rules? It's hardly fair to compare CNN in London with the BBC or Sky whose main headquarters are in London. Of course they are going to have more space and infrastructure to ensure safe operation during the pandemic.


They moved to a new location at the start of last year and started using a snazzy new studio (which was much larger than the previous one) just before the UK Lockdown.
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dvboy posted:
They have clearly made a decision to prioritise Amanpour, even if Christiane presents it from home, and it would still need a crew to put it together. .


It also might be worth keeping in mind CNNI's Amanpour is the one show that is not only aired on CNNI but also on PBS Member Stations (public broadcasting channels) across the US including in all US metro areas. That's also the reason there are no commercial breaks built into the programme as PBS programmes don't have any commercial breaks. In some ways, it is logical for this show to keep airing as it's the only show that is really aired worldwide as opposed to all the other CNNI programmes which are aired only on CNNI. Not everyone in the US for instance has access to CNNI but they do have access to local PBS channels mostly everywhere in the US so it's a huge relationship for CNN so I imagine they wouldn't want to jeopardize that, and it works even from home.
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headliner101 West Country (West) Points West
I would say it's purely a money issue now rather than covid. I'm sure all the international anchors could have done their shows from home in some form.


Could be. It wouldn't surprise me given that CNNI does not have as many external ads as Domestic does. 80-90% of breakfillers on CNNI are internal programme or network promos whereas on Domestic, it's 2/3 ads.


No, it depends which CNNI feed you are watching. The commercial breaks are local - there are several 'feeds' of CNNI around the world.
If you watch the Europe/Africa feed of CNNI on Sky 506, yes, the breaks are mainly network promos. But a lot of local adverts are added into other regions' feeds while you are seeing those network promos. (In the same way that in Asia, they see Asian city names in the 30 second weather filler rather than Europe/Africa/Middle East ones like us.)
Even if you watch CNNI via Samsung "TV Plus" in the UK, you will see inserted UK adverts (ie the same ads you'd see on ITV) where the network promos are shown on Sky 506.


Even on the other regional feeds, the ratio of internal to external promos for breakfillers is much greater than Domestic's. Though the configuration of the 'raw' EMEA feed for UK audiences is intriguing as given that it is on Freesat (FTA) and the ads are limtied there. Meanwhile I believe in some countries such as the Philippines, the local/national pay-TV companies may air a minute of local ads or pay-TV advisories right before the top and bottom of the hour.
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Most of CNN's on air advertising income comes from travel-related industries, and with very little global travel occurring currently, they would have lost a good portion of their advertisers or had to drop their rates significantly. It's quite weird - an unprecedented news cycle that has an audience glued to their screen for hours on end, but fewer businesses able to spend big bucks on advertising.
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headliner101 West Country (West) Points West
That's pretty much part of my point. Though even before the pandemic, CNNI's 'raw' EMEA feed had been relatively void of external ads. And to make matters awkward, this 'raw' feed is what is available on Freesat, which means UK/RoI residents with a Sky-sized satellite dish can access without paying a penny to a provider.

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