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Cliff Richard High Court Case

High court ruling due 18/7 (page 9 onwards) (April 2018)

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Markymark
commseng posted:
Markymark posted:
Arena's twitter feed today suggests both the helicopters, the 'BBC' and 'Sky' ones were up this morning for the BBC Marathon coverage

That doesn't surprise me, it is sensible to rent out your helicopter on a weekend when it is unlikely to be required for news. We have often rigged one extra helicopter at Arena and used the two permanently rigged ones for major events and for pool coverage.


Yes, there's a third one I've seen there with a UHD camera fitted, that's probably the one riggable with Tx and comms kit for live broadcasts ?
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dosxuk
Markymark posted:
commseng posted:
Markymark posted:
Arena's twitter feed today suggests both the helicopters, the 'BBC' and 'Sky' ones were up this morning for the BBC Marathon coverage

That doesn't surprise me, it is sensible to rent out your helicopter on a weekend when it is unlikely to be required for news. We have often rigged one extra helicopter at Arena and used the two permanently rigged ones for major events and for pool coverage.


Yes, there's a third one I've seen there with a UHD camera fitted, that's probably the one riggable with Tx and comms kit for live broadcasts ?


Unless the BBC have changed helicopters, the ones on the marathon weren't either of the dedicated news helicopters. G-SKYN and G-TAKE were the two branded up for Sky & BBC/ITN. G-TVHD and G-INTV were the two on marathon duties today, both fitted with Cineflex HD cameras.
RK
Rkolsen
How often is the helicopter in the air. In Baltimore a large to medium market they have about 100 hours a month of time. This allows them to be in the air for the noon to late afternoon newscasts (ending at 7pm). They are on call during the mornings. They generally don’t fly weeks ends unless it’s really bad news or special events. During sweeps one station will have the helicopter in the air in the mornings from about 5AM.
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Markymark
Rkolsen posted:
How often is the helicopter in the air. In Baltimore a large to medium market they have about 100 hours a month of time. This allows them to be in the air for the noon to late afternoon newscasts (ending at 7pm). They are on call during the mornings. They generally don’t fly weeks ends unless it’s really bad news or special events. During sweeps one station will have the helicopter in the air in the mornings from about 5AM.


The two news helicopters spend most of their time in the hanger, neither routinely fly on a regular daily basis.
BM
BM11
Case to be finshed by next tuesday but judgement not expected until the Summer.
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Andrew Founding member
Rkolsen posted:
How often is the helicopter in the air. In Baltimore a large to medium market they have about 100 hours a month of time. This allows them to be in the air for the noon to late afternoon newscasts (ending at 7pm). They are on call during the mornings. They generally don’t fly weeks ends unless it’s really bad news or special events. During sweeps one station will have the helicopter in the air in the mornings from about 5AM.

Is that often filming car chases or is that just a stereotype?

In the UK, live helicopter of a police raid is unheard of.

Regarding this case, it’s quite obvious they were caught up in the post Saville celeb scandal period of news, thought this time they’d got the big one, and went all out, and in the process went overboard.
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Rkolsen
Andrew posted:
Rkolsen posted:
How often is the helicopter in the air. In Baltimore a large to medium market they have about 100 hours a month of time. This allows them to be in the air for the noon to late afternoon newscasts (ending at 7pm). They are on call during the mornings. They generally don’t fly weeks ends unless it’s really bad news or special events. During sweeps one station will have the helicopter in the air in the mornings from about 5AM.

Is that often filming car chases or is that just a stereotype?

In the UK, live helicopter of a police raid is unheard of.

Regarding this case, it’s quite obvious they were caught up in the post Saville celeb scandal period of news, thought this time they’d got the big one, and went all out, and in the process went overboard.


Its a stereo type outside of Los Angeles. There may be an occasional police raid if there is a crime being investigated. But as far as I know they are not tipped off or streamed live.
BM
BM11
Fran Unsworth has just started giving her evidence.
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Markymark
BM11 posted:
Fran Unsworth has just started giving her evidence.


All she has to do, is to pretend she's on Newswatch, and I'm sure she'll just sail through......
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william Founding member
Markymark posted:
dvboy posted:
There are really strict rules over when and where you can fly a drone, most notably (from memory) that in a public place you have to inform people on the ground that there is a drone in the area, and you'd need permission to fly over private property, both of which make drones unsuitable for live newsgathering purposes.


Arena’s pilots have very good relations with air traffic agencies in the UK, ( which is why you often see shots taken over LHR and LGW etc) There is no way those shots could be obtained by drones. (I make no comment about the editorial merit of such shots)


I happened to be in London last November on budget day and a couple of things impressed me - firstly, just how steadily the pilot (or the autopilot - I'm unsure what pilots prefer to do when hovering) was holding it in position - for a very long time - over St.James Park (to get the Downing Street shot - I stood as close underneath it as I could. It was extremely noisy and blowing leaves all over the place) but it was maybe shifting a metre each way at the very most, nor was the heading changing much.

Then though, they went into this amazing sweeping manoeuvre; you have to be there to appreciate just how fast the helicopter moves, what a steep angle it's banking at and the proximity to the buildings needed to get that circular view of parliament, the London Eye and so on. Absurdly, when I checked on iPlayer later, it appeared they barely used any of it in the coverage.

I still think a locked off camera bolted to a building in Downing Street would be a bit more sensible (or the jib they've occasionally managed) but the helicopter is hugely impressive - just as interesting to watch it flying than the pictures it's sending down to be honest.

They use Arena for the boat race too of course (followed it on flightradar24 and it was heading back to Redhill the moment the credits started and had landed in 10 minutes) and things like Michael Portillo's Great Railway Journeys.
RK
Rkolsen
william posted:


I still think a locked off camera bolted to a building in Downing Street would be a bit more sensible (or the jib they've occasionally managed) but the helicopter is hugely impressive - just as interesting to watch it flying than the pictures it's sending down to be honest.




That would make most sense. Surely there’s not much of a security concern as cameras are there all days and nights. Now would the camera solely focus on the Number 10 door and or at the end of the street to give a wider view.

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