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Cliff Richard High Court Case

High court ruling due 18/7 (page 9 onwards) (April 2018)

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BR
Brekkie
Weren't SYP a co-defendent though, and IMO the ones at fault for giving the BBC the access in the first place.

Disgusting so much has been spent on this case, but the BBC absolutely must spend the estimated £200k it would cost to appeal, although only if they can appeal the fees they've "agreed" to pay (not worth spending £200k to win back £210k).

Also something wrong in law where a judge that issues a judgement can determine if that judgement can be appealed - it is very unlikely they're going to say they got something wrong. The court of appeal will look at it independently of the original judgement.
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BM
BM11
The issue is that the costs are coming out of public money ( even if only partially) and it will be appealing something the vast majority of the public believe should be the law. Personally I don;t agree with the Judge's verdict but I can see that it might be too risky for the BBC to appeal.
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NI
nigel
BM11 posted:
The issue is that the costs are coming out of public money ( even if only partially) and it will be appealing something the vast majority of the public believe should be the law. Personally I don;t agree with the Judge's verdict but I can see that it might be too risky for the BBC to appeal.


The majority of the press are against this ruling and were vocal in their condemnation of the ruling.

Could there be a case of a collective funding between them and the BBC to fight the case and protect press speech?
WH
Whataday Founding member
A lot of talk about the BBC's costs but they won't be too high because they are mainly using in house lawyers already on the payroll. Nowhere near as high as the other side's.
BR
Brekkie
A lot of talk about the BBC's costs but they won't be too high because they are mainly using in house lawyers already on the payroll. Nowhere near as high as the other side's.

And I'd imagine they are somewhat insured against the fees involved.
EL
elmarko
Weren't SYP a co-defendent though, and IMO the ones at fault for giving the BBC the access in the first place.

Yep, I don't get why they'd pay SYP's fees as co-defendants
BP
Bob Paisley
A lot of talk about the BBC's costs but they won't be too high because they are mainly using in house lawyers already on the payroll. Nowhere near as high as the other side's.


I think you'll find they'll probably be enormous. Yes, the BBC have in house lawyers, but I'm not aware of them having in house barristers etc. Much of their legal team will have to have been brought in. The legal process is unbelievably expensive and I'm sure the Beeb will have to fork out a seven figure sum for their own legal team (although, as others have said, they are probably insured in some way, to a certain extent).
BM
BM11
And that is what could ultimately lead to resignations when all appeals are finished - not the verdict per see but the enormous legal costs it brings. And because if the appeal is unsuccessful the press won’t exactly be pleased at the BBC for leading to this situation and the usual suspects will will want the BBC to suffer.
BR
Brekkie
The press support the BBC on this issue. They're most likely to call for resignations if the BBC don't appeal and stand up for press freedom.
AN
all new Phil
BM11 posted:
And that is what could ultimately lead to resignations when all appeals are finished - not the verdict per see but the enormous legal costs it brings. And because if the appeal is unsuccessful the press won’t exactly be pleased at the BBC for leading to this situation and the usual suspects will will want the BBC to suffer.

In the nicest possible way, I don’t think you fully understand all of this.
BM
BM11
BM11 posted:
And that is what could ultimately lead to resignations when all appeals are finished - not the verdict per see but the enormous legal costs it brings. And because if the appeal is unsuccessful the press won’t exactly be pleased at the BBC for leading to this situation and the usual suspects will will want the BBC to suffer.

In the nicest possible way, I don’t think you fully understand all of this.

Excuse me but I do. We all know how vicious the press is towards the BBC and that will be a major consideration on if the BBC will go all the way on an appeal - the BBC will be looking at costs, the reaction and evidence that the public support anonymity before making a final decision
DO
dosxuk
BM11 posted:
BM11 posted:
And that is what could ultimately lead to resignations when all appeals are finished - not the verdict per see but the enormous legal costs it brings. And because if the appeal is unsuccessful the press won’t exactly be pleased at the BBC for leading to this situation and the usual suspects will will want the BBC to suffer.

In the nicest possible way, I don’t think you fully understand all of this.

Excuse me but I do. We all know how vicious the press is towards the BBC and that will be a major consideration on if the BBC will go all the way on an appeal


If upsetting the Daily Mail was a major concern at the BBC they would have shut up shop and gone home years ago.

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