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Cliff Richard High Court Case

High court ruling due 18/7 (page 9 onwards) (April 2018)

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JO
Jon
Bit you’re also surprised we’re not at war with Russia so not sure that means much.
CU
Custard56
"Reports of the BBC's demise are greatly exaggerated."
OM
Omnipresent
A lot of journalists such as Tim Shipman from The Sunday Times and Tom Newton Dunn of The Sun have criticised the judgment, so I’ll think you’ll see editorials supporting the BBC tomorrow.

There’s no doubt the BBC went over the top with its reporting but the story was correct and arguably in the public interest. There may have been some questionable conduct by Daniel Johnson but it said there are only two qualities you need to be a good journalist: rat-like cunning and a plausible manner.

This case is different to the incorrect Newsnight report that resulted in the resignation of George Entwistle. Though, there is the theme of the BBC wanting to be seen to correct its omission in shelving the investigation into Savile.

I think the BBC came out far worse in Nick Pollard’s review of the Savile affair where it was clear that nobody would actually take responsibility for anything.
ToasterMan, Brekkie and Custard56 gave kudos
BM
BM11
A lot of journalists such as Tim Shipman from The Sunday Times and Tom Newton Dunn of The Sun have criticised the judgment, so I’ll think you’ll see editorials supporting the BBC tomorrow.

There’s no doubt the BBC went over the top with its reporting but the story was correct and arguably in the public interest. There may have been some questionable conduct by Daniel Johnson but it said there are only two qualities you need to be a good journalist: rat-like cunning and a plausible manner.

This case is different to the incorrect Newsnight report that resulted in the resignation of George Entwistle. Though, there is the theme of the BBC wanting to be seen to correct its omission in shelving the investigation into Savile.

I think the BBC came out far worse in Nick Pollard’s review of the Savile affair where it was clear that nobody would actually take responsibility for anything.

While their Journalists do support it I cant see the Sun putting an editorial out that supports the appeal - it be one that only focuses on the other aspects of the Case where the BBC can be fairly criticized.
CL
clh
BM11 posted:
I am surprised they haven't announced at suspension of using the helicopter until they get new guidelines

Beyond this, how many controversial uses of the helicopter can you list? Why would they need to suspend it's use - we don't see it used too much anyway.
BM
BM11
clh posted:
BM11 posted:
I am surprised they haven't announced at suspension of using the helicopter until they get new guidelines

Beyond this, how many controversial uses of the helicopter can you list? Why would they need to suspend it's use - we don't see it used too much anyway.

Because it can be argued that it is an expensive piece of equipment which rarely adds that much to the story during these times of cost cutting.
JO
Jonwo
I don't get this obsession with BBC people being forced by the press to resign from their jobs, it's not how resignations work.
BM
BM11
Sir Cliff Richard calls for Heads to Roll at the BBC so I suspect major resignations are coming very soon (as they know they cant win against a press barrage calling for your head).
https://news.sky.com/story/a-win-for-sir-cliff-but-is-media-freedom-the-ultimate-loser-11440860
JO
Jon
BM11 posted:
so I suspect major resignations are coming very soon

Why hadn't you mentioned this before now?
BM
BM11
https://tvforum.uk/forums/post?action=edit&p=1123597
I don't get this obsession with BBC people being forced by the press to resign from their jobs, it's not how resignations work.

Because it is how resignations often work - people resign before they pushed after it becomes obvious the only way to save the organizations (or goverment's) reputation is for that person to leave.
DV
dvboy
Can't see anyone resigning if the BBC are planning to appeal.
JO
Jonwo
BM11 posted:
Sir Cliff Richard calls for Heads to Roll at the BBC so I suspect major resignations are coming very soon (as they know they cant win against a press barrage calling for your head).
https://news.sky.com/story/a-win-for-sir-cliff-but-is-media-freedom-the-ultimate-loser-11440860


With respect to Cliff, calling for someone to resign doesn’t mean they will or should.

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