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Carrie Gracie resignation

Split from BBC News | Presenter & Correspondent Reshuffles (January 2018)

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Brekkie
Cando posted:
She is permanent staff, they have to put her somewhere.

Not when she's resigned and bought her employers into disrepute in doing so.
CA
Cando
Surely her role was more akin to the European editor. The " I stand with Carrie" crowd pretending it's in the same league as Middle Eastern/ US role are hurting their own cause. I think they'd be better off highlighting the Sarah Montague situation on R4.
Cando posted:
She is permanent staff, they have to put her somewhere.

Not when she's resigned and bought her employers into disrepute in doing so.


Under employment law she is doing nothing wrong.
BR
Brekkie
House posted:
Could anyone arguing Jon Sopel's North America brief is the most important please explain to me why it's worth up to (or over) £100,000 more than Katya Adler's Europe brief, please? Katya is routinely breaking news on one of the biggest and most important issues facing the country, and the news agenda clearly prioritises Brexit over American stories.

Because nobody has heard of Katya Adler.


Like it or not it's an industry where pay reflects profile as much as professionalism. In addition most Brexit coverage is done by the political team rather than the Europe Bureau.
SC
Schwing
On the ITV news they made a point on how she was paid less than Jeremy Bowen and Jon Sopel. But surely despite all being editors, the latter two should be paid more.

I'd assume Middle East Editor comes with a 'at risk of being blown up any moment' bonus and also the fact that Bowen has worked for the BBC for a million years and held that post for a good 10 years or more will count for something.

North American Editor must also come with a higher rate as like it or not, the U.S. is always at the top of the news agenda, and Sopel appears on the network news practically every day.


I’m not convinced that this argument stacks up. Only four years separate Sopel, Bowen and Gracie in terms of length of service; I appreciate that you’re being a little tongue in cheek regarding Bowen being there for “a million years” but Sopel joined the Corporation a year earlier.

It’s fair to say that being based in the Middle East exposes a correspondent to a greater risk. However, the China Editor faces comparable risks in terms of (Chinese) government scrutiny, reporting restrictions and the ever present risk of being detained by Chinese authorities.

In respect of the North American Editor, it’s fair to say that the role has a certain cachet. However, Sopel is seldom seen “practically every day” and more often than one sees Laura Bicker, Nick Bryant or Laura Trevelyan instead. If I’m honest, I think that Sopel is a ‘bit of a waste of space’ in the role; it didn’t seem like a good fit at the time that he was appointed to the role, especially given his relative inexperience vis-a-vis US affairs (cf. Matt Frei, Justin Webb, Nick Bryant, etc.)

It is ironic that the editor with the most challenging role at present is actually Katya Adler. As Europe Editor, she is tasked with covering Brexit, the Catalan separatist movement, the Mediterranean immigration crisis, the rise of nationalist and populist movements across Europe, the problems facing the Eurozone (and the EU) and the age-old struggle for power between France and Germany.

Yes, Trump is a source of concern, derision and instability. Yes, the Middle East could explode at any moment (though the Trump administration doesn’t help matters). But China, where President Xi is as powerful as (if not more so than) Mao, where the regime in Beijing holds the key to the Korea question, and Europe are far more consequential at present.
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Steve in Pudsey
Interesting angle on this:





The BBC would argue it's just clarifying existing editorial policy, but you can take it to logical conclusions and end up with something ridiculous. What next, anybody who has ever taken part in an NUJ strike can't report on train strikes because they have a pro-trade union bias?
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noggin Founding member
Cando posted:
She is permanent staff, they have to put her somewhere.

Not when she's resigned and bought her employers into disrepute in doing so.


Carrie Gracie hasn't resigned from the BBC.
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Andrew Founding member
Can you resign from your role and move back to your previous role? Surely that role has either been filled or doesn't exist?
LX
lxflyer
House posted:
Could anyone arguing Jon Sopel's North America brief is the most important please explain to me why it's worth up to (or over) £100,000 more than Katya Adler's Europe brief, please? Katya is routinely breaking news on one of the biggest and most important issues facing the country, and the news agenda clearly prioritises Brexit over American stories.

Because nobody has heard of Katya Adler.


Like it or not it's an industry where pay reflects profile as much as professionalism. In addition most Brexit coverage is done by the political team rather than the Europe Bureau.


Really??

I think that’s rather unfair - I’d argue she is well known having been around a long time as a BBC correspondent including a long spell in the Middle East.
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LX
lxflyer
Can you resign from your role and move back to your previous role? Surely that role has either been filled or doesn't exist?


We don’t know the nature of her contract - she may have taken leave of absence or a secondment from her permanent newsroom role to be China Editor for a specific period.

If that were the case then it’s quite possible to resign the China post and return to the newsroom, in whatever guise that may end up being.
RK
Rkolsen
Interesting angle on this:





The BBC would argue it's just clarifying existing editorial policy, but you can take it to logical conclusions and end up with something ridiculous. What next, anybody who has ever taken part in an NUJ strike can't report on train strikes because they have a pro-trade union bias?


I am not aware that much of Carrie Gracie so I have not much to add. But based on that tweet it seems like the majority of presenters and reporters wouldn’t be excluded from reporting. Almost like they are trying to prevent anyone from talking/reporting the story.
RK
Rkolsen
Out of curiousity how much does the BBC cover living costs for foreign editors and correspondents if at all?
Do they provide a housing allowance, tuition for those with families to attend an English speaking school, health insurance? All those sorts of things.
LO
loftylad
So after reading all those posts regarding Carrie Gracie resignation, who will be taking over the job as BBC China Editor?
I hope current China correspondent John Sudworth or Toyko's correspondent Rupert Wingfield-Hayes applys.

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