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C4 considering switch to Sky News

But why would Sky News be better than ITV News? (August 2005)

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BR
Brekkie
From Media Guardian:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,1558734,00.html

Quote:
Channel 4 considers Sky news coverage

Owen Gibson, media correspondent
Tuesday August 30, 2005
The Guardian


Channel 4 News anchor Jon Snow and BSkyB chairman Rupert Murdoch might appear unlikely bedfellows. But it has emerged that the broadcaster is considering ditching ITN as its news provider and is contemplating other options including the possibility of turning to Sky News in some capacity.
The contract is up for renewal at the end of next year. However, if it were to decide to end its relationship with ITN, which has made its news bulletins since the channel launched in 1982, it would have to give the company notice by the end of this year.

Insiders close to the decision-making process said that Channel 4, which last weekend announced plans to expand its news coverage by launching an 8pm bulletin on the new digital channel More4, would make its decision in the next few months.

It has signed up former ITN chief executive and editor in chief Stewart Purvis, now professor of television journalism at City University, to advise on the future of its news operation.

While pleased with the standard of news provided to its lunchtime news and its flagship hour-long 7pm bulletin by ITN, executives are said to be concerned by developments that could lead to it effectively becoming ITV's in-house news provider over the course of the next contract. A Channel 4 spokesman said: "You only have to look at the quality of Channel 4 News to see what a good product ITN produces. But we are reviewing our position."

ITV has consistently sought to integrate ITN more closely with ITV News since renewing its own contract at a reduced price of £35m a year. The ITV News operation has been revitalised under editor in chief David Mannion and is riding high as a result of a series of scoops. ITV is understood to be keen to eventually take full control of the news provider.

Channel 4 executives are therefore keen to clarify what would happen to its news provision in such a scenario, particularly at a time when broadcasters will be competing ever more fiercely for viewers in the face of audience fragmentation.

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But Channel 4 also has a number of other options open to it. Some see the favourite as an arms length arrangement, effectively renting studio space, facilities and staff from Sky or elsewhere but installing its own team of executives to run its programming.



The question is what is the difference from getting news from Sky to getting it from ITV? They are both in effect rival companies.


And why would taking news from ITV be such a problem when C4 have many programmes made by ITV, most notably Countdown.
LO
Londoner
This is probably just a tactic by C4 to put the wind up ITN, keep them on their toes and drive the price down next time round.
MA
Matrix
Sad but true.
BP
Bob Paisley
I suspect it could be a bargaining ploy (and the same sort of thing certainly helped ITV pay less for its news) but it would be a real shame if ITN lost the contract. It would practically spell the end for the company - simply becoming an adjunct part of ITV. It would mean Sky and the Beeb were the only serious players left in TV news.

Although one thing in ITN's favour is the Channel 4 News archive. All those award-winning reports from yesteryear are ITN copyright. C4 would lose the lot if they went to Sky.
CA
cat
I can't imagine the Channel 4 News archive swinging things, to be honest. Can't quite recall the last time I saw a C4N bulletin with an old news report in it.

Either way, they'd get access to the Sky News Library, which has been around since the 80s, and they can always buy stuff from ITN Archive. With regards to Brekkie Boy's comment about ''what difference would it make?''. Well, Channel 4 are obviously a little concerned that ITN is effectively going to stop becoming a producer of news bulletins for other networks, wanting to work on other contracts, and instead focus all of its attention on ITV News, rather than Channel 4 or anyone else.

In its simplest terms, Channel 4 may well be thinking ''ITN/ITV News would rather focus on their own programming, whereas Sky would jump at the chance to supply our coverage''.

Channel 4 know full well that Sky would snap up the contract given half a chance, so if ITN are looking disinterested you can hardly blame them. For what it's worth, I think it's a solid programme as it is, and think it'd be a shame if any ITN changes altered it in any drastic fashion.
CA
cat
This is an interesting quote from the article:

''[Sky's] own 24-hour news operation will move to the new studios in the autumn, which would have room to house the Channel 4 operation , coinciding with a substantial revamp of its schedule and on-air look.''

Would they?

AFAIK - and perhaps I'm 100% wrong - there are three studio centres in the new building. The Five studio, the Sky News Studio B, and the massive Sky News Studio A.

Presumably if Sky did get it, they'd have to give one of their studios over to Four, unless there are more than 3 in there, or build a new one. Probably end up costing them more than they'd get back in return if they had to build a new place.
BN
Breakfast News
Jon Snow always said he wouldn't work for anyone other than ITN, but would he work for Sky if they had an arms-length agreement, as the MG article suggests?

I can see what Channel 4 is worrying about, with the whole ITN/ITVplc thing, but they already have a polished product from ITN. We'll just have to wait and see, but I really do hope they stay with ITN.

As much as I like and admire Sky News, after seeing Five News from Sky, I think they are far, far better at their own channel, rather than bulletins.
BR
Brekkie
One thing I meant to add is how awful Five News has become under Sky's control.

At first it was an improvement, but now it's even worse than the last incarnation from ITN. Five News is now just another news bulletin and lost it's identity.

We've also lost the familar on-screen team with the likes of Rob Butler, Charlie Stayt and Katie Ledger disappearing, all being replaced by virtual unknowns to terrestrial TV.

Another point, though this is more due to five than Sky News, is the service offered now is poor compared to what it used to be. We used to have bulletins virtually every hour from 6am through to around midnight - now coverage begins with the 11.30am, with the bulletins at 5.30pm and 7.00pm and updates at 8pm and 9pm.


I for one would much rather see C4 News continue to be made by the ITN team - even if ITN becomes ITV News - than the team from Sky.

There is no reason why ITV News couldn't produce the bulletin for C4 as ITV produce programmes for C4, and nothing to suggest that any "ITV News" branding would be incorporated other than an endcap. In fact with news bulletins nowadays the station has a much bigger say in the branding than the producer!
TE
TELEVISION
I would certainly hope that C4 stays with ITN. I'm sure if they were to switch to Sky News, the bulletins would lose their gravitas, and Jon Snow.
SP
Spencer
TELEVISION posted:
I would certainly hope that C4 stays with ITN. I'm sure if they were to switch to Sky News, the bulletins would lose their gravitas, and Jon Snow.


I share your sentiment there, as Channel 4 News is an excellent programme, and I wouldn't want that to change, so I'd favour keeping the status quo.

However to be fair to Sky, there's nothing to say that because their main output has a more tabloid agenda, they can't produce a quality, in-depth news programme... after all, that's exactly what ITN do.
AB
ABC Australia
What if Channel 4 started producing it's own news?
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
ABC Australia posted:
What if Channel 4 started producing it's own news?


Channel 4's remit is to make none of its own programmes, instead commission them from ITV companies and independent production companies. This presumably also includes the news programmes.

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