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Brekkie34,852 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Banned for 1 week
HTV Wales Wales Today
mdtauk posted:
BBC Two has traditionally been a testing ground for new talent, new content. A chance to be edgy and commission shows that not only are untested, but that don't fit with the BBC One Audience demographic.

It has become something of a safe lifestyle and current affairs channel.

Gone way off topic here but interesting that Peaky Blinders hasn't got the significant bump that other shows moved up to BBC1 have. It can work in it's favour though as longer running shows become more costly so shifting it over to BBC1 frees up their budget and slots for newer content.


I do think from 9-10.30pm BBC2 is pretty strong, but it is weak in early peak and like most channels now after 11pm is just repeats. We obviously all go to bed, or at least turn off linear channels, earlier than we used too. And vaguely getting this back on topic but Brexitcast one of literally a handful, if that, of new shows now that premiere after 11pm, although as it's a repeat of a 9.30pm showing on the News Channel we probably can't even say that.
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VMPhil10,398 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
Inspector Sands posted:
Thing is that most of BBC4's original programming would never be commissioned for BBC2. It's just not true that 4 syphoned off lots of 2's remit and content, it has created its own style and remit.

A lot of what BBC 4 commissions is too cheap and niche for BBC2, and it would never show foreign dramas in peak time or commit as much airtime to the Proms as BBC4 does.

Completely agree, niche programming like slow TV would just not work on BBC Two.
Brekkie34,852 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Banned for 1 week
HTV Wales Wales Today
BBC4 only screen the Proms on Fridays now, and BBC2 only show a couple all summer. I'm sure BBC4 used to screen them all in it's early days, or at least they were on the red button.
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Gallunach190 posts since 17 Apr 2005
Brekkie posted:
BBC4 only screen the Proms on Fridays now, and BBC2 only show a couple all summer. I'm sure BBC4 used to screen them all in it's early days, or at least they were on the red button.

Not only Friday Sunday as well
noggin14,946 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Brekkie posted:
BBC4 only screen the Proms on Fridays now, and BBC2 only show a couple all summer. I'm sure BBC4 used to screen them all in it's early days, or at least they were on the red button.


No - only selected Proms have ever been broadcast on TV.

Orchestras and artists performing at the Proms are only contracted for their radio and live rights as standard - with TV rights costing an additional amount, which in some cases can be a very large amount... The costs of buying out TV rights to every single Prom performance would be massive.
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Markymark8,226 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Inspector Sands posted:
Thing is that most of BBC4's original programming would never be commissioned for BBC2. It's just not true that 4 syphoned off lots of 2's remit and content, it has created its own style and remit.

A lot of what BBC 4 commissions is too cheap and niche for BBC2, and it would never show foreign dramas in peak time


It has in the past, but I agree, it wouldn't today
DVB Cornwall9,405 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
Interesting discussion today, would be interested to hear opinions. Argument in the discussion was that putting Brexitcast on television, even at an obscure time in the schedule could lead to tempering the acerbic nature of some of the points in the audio only podcast.

I can see the value of the statement, others?
Whataday10,855 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
DVB Cornwall posted:
Interesting discussion today, would be interested to hear opinions. Argument in the discussion was that putting Brexitcast on television, even at an obscure time in the schedule could lead to tempering the acerbic nature of some of the points in the audio only podcast.

I can see the value of the statement, others?


On face value I can see the point but don't agree.

I wouldn't call any of the exchanges acerbic. Discussion is already tempered in the podcasts as they still follow BBC editorial policy.

It could be argued that the hosts might give a bit less away due to the wider audience reached and the chances of even the slightest comment being blown up on Twitter/in the tabloids. However Brexitcast (the podcast) already gets around 1.5 million downloads a month, so it's already widely consumed.
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Cusack85 posts since 6 Mar 2018
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
noggin posted:
Brekkie posted:
BBC4 only screen the Proms on Fridays now, and BBC2 only show a couple all summer. I'm sure BBC4 used to screen them all in it's early days, or at least they were on the red button.


No - only selected Proms have ever been broadcast on TV.

Orchestras and artists performing at the Proms are only contracted for their radio and live rights as standard - with TV rights costing an additional amount, which in some cases can be a very large amount... The costs of buying out TV rights to every single Prom performance would be massive.


I'm confused, why would the BBC need to buy the TV rights to their own event? Isn't it the BBC Proms?
clh60 posts since 10 Jul 2014
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Cusack posted:
noggin posted:
Brekkie posted:
BBC4 only screen the Proms on Fridays now, and BBC2 only show a couple all summer. I'm sure BBC4 used to screen them all in it's early days, or at least they were on the red button.


No - only selected Proms have ever been broadcast on TV.

Orchestras and artists performing at the Proms are only contracted for their radio and live rights as standard - with TV rights costing an additional amount, which in some cases can be a very large amount... The costs of buying out TV rights to every single Prom performance would be massive.


I'm confused, why would the BBC need to buy the TV rights to their own event? Isn't it the BBC Proms?


Not all the orchestras at the proms are BBC staff orchestras