VM
That was on before Come Fly with Me. Five hours before, to be precise
EDIT: realised this kind of makes me look like a know-it-all smartarse, to clarify I didn’t know this off the top of my head but looked it up. Good shout anyway, Jon.
The One Ronnie?
That was on before Come Fly with Me. Five hours before, to be precise
EDIT: realised this kind of makes me look like a know-it-all smartarse, to clarify I didn’t know this off the top of my head but looked it up. Good shout anyway, Jon.
Last edited by VMPhil on 27 October 2019 7:36pm
SJ
I suspect Come Fly with Me might also be the last primetime BBC One series where the main performers regularly blacked up in the name of comedy - which says something about the speed of change of social mores over the last eight years or so. Hard to imagine that being seen as acceptable in the era of Brexit.
Is this the first time Walliams & Lucas have worked together since Come Fly with Me?
I suspect Come Fly with Me might also be the last primetime BBC One series where the main performers regularly blacked up in the name of comedy - which says something about the speed of change of social mores over the last eight years or so. Hard to imagine that being seen as acceptable in the era of Brexit.
MF
I suspect Come Fly with Me might also be the last primetime BBC One series where the main performers regularly blacked up in the name of comedy - which says something about the speed of change of social mores over the last eight years or so. Hard to imagine that being seen as acceptable in the era of Brexit.
Saw it again last year, would create a lot of anger if released today.
Is this the first time Walliams & Lucas have worked together since Come Fly with Me?
I suspect Come Fly with Me might also be the last primetime BBC One series where the main performers regularly blacked up in the name of comedy - which says something about the speed of change of social mores over the last eight years or so. Hard to imagine that being seen as acceptable in the era of Brexit.
Saw it again last year, would create a lot of anger if released today.
JO
I suspect Come Fly with Me might also be the last primetime BBC One series where the main performers regularly blacked up in the name of comedy - which says something about the speed of change of social mores over the last eight years or so. Hard to imagine that being seen as acceptable in the era of Brexit.
Saw it again last year, would create a lot of anger if released today.
Probably mostly from white people.
To be fair the joke wasn’t that he was in ‘blackface’ like the black and white minstrels, but more the character’s persona in general and it just happened to be she was black. I agree we’d probably be uncomfortable with it today but I wonder if that’s got more to do with people not understanding what the context is and what the joke is meant to be.
Is this the first time Walliams & Lucas have worked together since Come Fly with Me?
I suspect Come Fly with Me might also be the last primetime BBC One series where the main performers regularly blacked up in the name of comedy - which says something about the speed of change of social mores over the last eight years or so. Hard to imagine that being seen as acceptable in the era of Brexit.
Saw it again last year, would create a lot of anger if released today.
Probably mostly from white people.
To be fair the joke wasn’t that he was in ‘blackface’ like the black and white minstrels, but more the character’s persona in general and it just happened to be she was black. I agree we’d probably be uncomfortable with it today but I wonder if that’s got more to do with people not understanding what the context is and what the joke is meant to be.
Last edited by Jon on 27 October 2019 8:17pm
BC
Blake Connolly
Founding member
Matt Lucas spoke about this on RHLSTP (rhlstp!), saying that at the time the idea was quite a well-intentioned one, wanting to reflect the real Britain in a way that just having only white male characters wouldn't have done. He said that it shows how times have changed that he wouldn't dream of doing that now and of course now the right thing to do would be to have a wider, more diverse cast, but at the time it was coming from the right place.
Saying that, there were one or two characters in particular that felt like mistakes even then.
Saying that, there were one or two characters in particular that felt like mistakes even then.
AN
I’m not gonna lie, I do still on occasion scream “we got no milk” when I’m making a coffee. Does that make me racist?
JW
I don’t take milk.
I’m not gonna lie, I do still on occasion scream “we got no milk” when I’m making a coffee. Does that make me racist?
I don’t take milk.
JW
Brussels says “yes” to an extension until next year (31st January 2020).
An extension as opposed to a flextension, I believe.
So.......here we go again!
Philippa Thomas for BBC World at Westminster.
An extension as opposed to a flextension, I believe.
So.......here we go again!
Philippa Thomas for BBC World at Westminster.