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BREAKING NEWS: Train derails in Liverpool

(October 2005)

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IT
itsrobert Founding member
Moz posted:
News 24 coverage very good. Kept with it until it seemed no casualties, then moved on to their top story, then went back to recap, and to bring some more info. They're also using their graphics well. When they went back to 'normal' news they reset the Tower, flashed up the breaking news banner one last time and then brought up the red ticker.

Anyone know where they're getting the detailed rail map they're using from? It's got a spelling mistake on it! "Birkenehad Park"! They were able to zoom and pan the map. I presume it's online?


I must say that it isn't a brilliant map by any means - the way it is skewed makes it look wrong. The line with stations Sandhills, Bank Hall, Bootle Oriel Road etc. should be heading further north than what that map shows. If you go by that, they are heading south-west!

Here's a better map: http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/trainmap.pdf
MO
Moz
The map was rotated anti-clockwise 90 degrees. Maps don't *have* to have North at the top! I thought it was very clear.
TA
tv addict
Watching the coverage your are right BBC24 dedicated more time to the story than anyone else.
But it also strikes me that there's been a huge over-reaction by the BBC to a story which at the end of the day was a low speed accident in which no-one was hurt.
Yes you can go down the road of ''But it could have been...'', but the bottom line is it wasn't.
Move on it's a regional story at best now!!
CA
cat
The map News 24 were using was dreadful - Sky seemed to be using the official map.

If it's happened on the Wirral Line, then it's probably either a Chester-Liverpool, Birkenhead-Liverpool, or Ellesmere Port-Liverpool service. I've travelled on the line hundreds of times... it's always been a bit dodgy, but they've put loads of new trains on it recently and it seems to have improved a little. Merseyrail are scum, anyway, so anything that put them in a bad light is good news.
CA
cat
tv addict posted:
Watching the coverage your are right BBC24 dedicated more time to the story than anyone else.
But it also strikes me that there's been a huge over-reaction by the BBC to a story which at the end of the day was a low speed accident in which no-one was hurt.
Yes you can go down the road of ''But it could have been...'', but the bottom line is it wasn't.
Move on it's a regional story at best now!!


It's the point I was making in the Sky thread -- I think they've overreacted to just about every breaking news story I've seen in the past two days, perhaps to try to steal the thunder of Sky, who are in a bit of a shambles at the moment and still finding their feet. Clever, but I did think this channel was supposed to be ''distinctive'' and not looking at its rivals all the time.
IM
its me
A rather over entusiastic passenger there on News 24's pictures lol, almost hugging Andy Gill when she recognized him of NWT. Very Happy
JA
jamesmd
cat posted:
The map News 24 were using was dreadful - Sky seemed to be using the official map.


Even if they did get it on about twenty minutes* after the story broke.

*hyperboly
CO
coolbananas
Why is N24 streaming any feed it can find live rather than waiting for the Journalists to properly package the pictures?

I would question that this is good editorial judgement to handling a breaking story.
PC
p_c_u_k
Interesting question - if it had been London Underground, would it have been a minor regional story?

Still, I agree that News 24 should leave it now. They won, they destroyed Sky, now they're in danger of overdoing it and just throwing anything on air to keep things going.

As for requesting pictures not being tasteless - well generally no, it happens a lot nowadays. But not 10 minutes after the news has broken, and before the full extent of the incident has been worked out.
DV
DVB Cornwall
p_c_u_k posted:



Still, I agree that News 24 should leave it now. They won, they destroyed Sky, now they're in danger of overdoing it and just throwing anything on air to keep things going.


Agreed time to drop the story - See News24 Tonight was rapidly abandoned too.
TA
tv addict
I agree with the way this is going. BBC24 think they are in the supremacy on Breaking News because of Sky's ATV position in the evening. But you need to judge what is and isn't a valid breaking story and for how long you run with it.

And actually yes - if it had been in London by now knowing what we know - it would have become a regional story.

No dead, no terrorism, no big smash, no unique accident etc etc - lucky escape! Leave it to the regions.
MO
Moz
p_c_u_k posted:
Interesting question - if it had been London Underground, would it have been a minor regional story?

Good point. People are always complaining that events in the capital get more coverage, it's nice to see something in the provinces getting it's due!

But it is time to move on now, I agree!

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