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Manchester Terror Attack

On 22 May 2017, there was a suicide bombing at Manchester Arena which killed 22 people (May 2017)

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MA
mapperuo
Was good to see Huw Edwards interviewing, meeting and talking to some of the people from the vigil on the ground a little earlier during a piece on tonight's Ten, complete with reporters microphone. Always happy to get stuck in is Huw. Smile


They both use the same satellite for OBs so it's probably quite easy to pool feeds that way.
WO
Worzel
A moment of light relief with Christian Fraser going into a report and forgetting Mark Easton's name.
PC
p_c_u_k
In terms of ITV not having a bulletin last night - I agree it's not the end of the world. This was a horrific terror attack but isolated to one venue. My concern would be what their plans are should something even more serious occur. I'm quite sure there will be something.

In terms of it being an old-fashioned outlook that something must go on TV - I accept the majority of the population turn to the internet for breaking news these days, but taking that argument to its logical conclusion, what's the point in TV news at all? Also, older people will not necessarily be all over the likes of Twitter.
GO
gordonthegopher
In terms of ITV not having a bulletin last night - I agree it's not the end of the world. This was a horrific terror attack but isolated to one venue. My concern would be what their plans are should something even more serious occur. I'm quite sure there will be something.

In terms of it being an old-fashioned outlook that something must go on TV - I accept the majority of the population turn to the internet for breaking news these days, but taking that argument to its logical conclusion, what's the point in TV news at all? Also, older people will not necessarily be all over the likes of Twitter.

I think it is poor that it took our main commercial broadcaster over 7 hours to report a major news story.
The incident was just after 10:30pm and the first Breaking News reports were about 11pm (BBC, Sky) and itv did not have a bulletin until 6am.
I think it was poor that there wasn't even an update at some stage during the night. How bad would a story need to be before itv news would come on air?
NE
newsman1
In terms of ITV not having a bulletin last night - I agree it's not the end of the world. This was a horrific terror attack but isolated to one venue. My concern would be what their plans are should something even more serious occur. I'm quite sure there will be something.

In terms of it being an old-fashioned outlook that something must go on TV - I accept the majority of the population turn to the internet for breaking news these days, but taking that argument to its logical conclusion, what's the point in TV news at all? Also, older people will not necessarily be all over the likes of Twitter.


Many people find it simpler to watch breaking news on a TV set at home or in a bar or café than to get to grips with an iPhone.

Furthermore, appointment-to-view bulletins provide a review of the day's events and include analysis. I don't think watching TV on a TV set will go out of fashion.
RI
Richard
BBC seems confused, they keep saying on screen the attacker was 22, yet the reporters say 23.

I think the attacker was 22 and they had arrested someone else who is 23.
RK
Rkolsen
Victoria Derbyshires outfit for the field was for the most part okay. I wouldn't have worn a star sweater. Based on the quick response time a sweater, jacket and jeans seem appropriate. In the US that's the basic outfit for those first on scene - the men may be wearing button down shirt or during severe weather an athletic type shirt. But for the Nightly shows you'll more often than not see someone wearing a sport jacket and a button down.

Here's an image of Lester Holt reporting after the Pulse nightclub attack:

http://cdn.newsbusters.org/styles/blog_body-50/s3/images/2016-06-12-nbc-nn-orlandoharrysmithguns1.jpg


What Lester Holt is wearing is fine - a jumper with a giant star on it, a biker jacket and jeans is not acceptable for a serious news broadcast I'm sorry. If you know you're going to be anchoring a 'serious' news story from an OB location you make a bit of an effort. If that's the case Ben, Huw and George should have turned up in a T-shirt and jeans because of course 'no one really cares'.


I'm watching msnbc right now and their reporter Matt (something but it's a guy with two first names) on the scene appears to be wearing leather jacket. Would this be appropriate? (Cropped badly my ipads screen is going nuts).
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IN
Independent
In terms of ITV not having a bulletin last night - I agree it's not the end of the world. This was a horrific terror attack but isolated to one venue. My concern would be what their plans are should something even more serious occur. I'm quite sure there will be something.

In terms of it being an old-fashioned outlook that something must go on TV - I accept the majority of the population turn to the internet for breaking news these days, but taking that argument to its logical conclusion, what's the point in TV news at all? Also, older people will not necessarily be all over the likes of Twitter.


Many people find it simpler to watch breaking news on a TV set at home or in a bar or café than to get to grips with an iPhone.

Furthermore, appointment-to-view bulletins provide a review of the day's events and include analysis. I don't think watching TV on a TV set will go out of fashion.
That's the case for me. For me, the flurry of tweets can be overwhelming and unorganized. In terms of reliability, it seems the stuff that gets retweeted are more prone to error than what's mentioned on-air.
CR
Critique
The News Channel dropped the Newsnight repeat again tonight, still handing to Newsday as usual though at midnight. This came entirely from London and focussed solely on events in Manchester. The first twenty minutes or so seemed to be made up of what was potentially a repeat of Christian Fraser's OB from the city an hour before - there was no live bug but it went on for quite a while and had been done 'as-live'. At 00:30 Newsday continued rather than use a pre-recorded programme, but still broke for Sport Today at 00:45.
UK
UKnews
Just noticed a Sky News interview with the Met Police Commissioner going on the BBC News channel. What's the agreement between the broadcasters in events like this? Is it a matter of the BBC and Sky having a mutual agreement where say, if you give us this - we'll give you that? If so, how do they go about distributing the VT between one another?

It's a 'pooled' interview, a very very common thing. The person - often a politician or other senior public figure - agrees to do one interview to be provided on a 'pool' basis. It is then made available to all the broadcasters in the U.K. pool (BBC, ITN, Sky) at the same time- no exclusive first showing for the broadcaster that filmed it. If the broadcasters all have trucks in a pariticular location they might link into whoever is playing out the pool interview so they can record it / feed it back but what usually happens it that it'll be fed back (file transfered or played out) by the broadcaster who recorded the interview. The other broadcasters book circuits to that broadcaster once a playout time has been agreed. (They wouldn't downlink another broadcasters satellite feed in all but the most extreme of circumstances.) This feed may be arranged some time in advance, other times it's arranged with a matter of minutes notice. If the other broadcasters want to broadcast that interview / feed as it's coming in to them they are allowed to.


Who is the pool tends to rotate around, but it's not a strict rule. It may come down to who has the crew / facilities in the right place at the right time. The pool for royal stories (most of which are known about in advance) tends to just come down to whose 'turn' it happens to be. (Although in the case of the royals there is a cameraman who is paid for by the BBC, ITN and Sky who films most royal events.)

For larger events the pool may be a camera provided by each broadcaster that is then mixed by one of them. If it's an event occurring in several different places (like the Queen's jubilee) one broadcaster may be the pool for one place, another for the next one and so on.

Whilst UK broadcasters are competitive on an editorial level on a technical level they're good at co-operating when needed. So sometimes arrangements for a pool are adapted by the people on the ground for one reason or another.
DJ
DJGM

And finally, an actual news bulletin from That's Manchester.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU8f11KA_t8


It is perhaps ironic the graphics from That's Manchester say "FIRST FOR LOCAL NEWS" when on this occasion, they absolutely weren't.
Steve in Pudsey and London Lite gave kudos
NE
newsman1
DJGM posted:

And finally, an actual news bulletin from That's Manchester.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU8f11KA_t8


It is perhaps ironic the graphics from That's Manchester say "FIRST FOR LOCAL NEWS" when on this occasion, they absolutely weren't.


It's just a marketing slogan.

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