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AlexS
I think the discussion over what Victoria Derbyshire wore for a hour has really been blown out of proportion. We don't know what the full circumstances are. Had she have worn the same outfit the whole time, maybe it would be different. In that hour wearing that outfit, the quality and professionalism of the news coverage was not affected.
22 people are dead - are you all really discussing a jacket?
22 people are dead - are you all really discussing a jacket?
If Peter Sissions wearing a sombre, but not black, tie after the natural death of a centurion can make headline news there is absolutely nothing wrong with a forum discussing the appropriateness of casual clothes after a terror attack.
VM
I really dislike it when people say things like this, I think everyone on here knows that what we're talking about is vastly unimportant in the context of what has happened. We're a presentation forum, we are going to (sensitively) discuss and argue about the minutiae of presentation during a big news event like this.
22 people are dead - are you all really discussing a jacket?
I really dislike it when people say things like this, I think everyone on here knows that what we're talking about is vastly unimportant in the context of what has happened. We're a presentation forum, we are going to (sensitively) discuss and argue about the minutiae of presentation during a big news event like this.
DU
I woke up at 4.30am this morning, looked at my phone and quickly turned on the tv. Since then I feel I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly of TV news...
Piers Morgan...no one knew anything about the perpetrators of this hideous crime yet on ITV breakfast he is allowed to get away with speculating that this attack is linked to Donald Trump visiting Saudi Arabia, no facts just pure unfiltered speculation! Surely less than 12 hours into a serious situation like this we should expect our public service broadcasters not to be broadcasting basix racism, actually, we should expect this at all times.
Victoria Derbyshire...much has been said on this forum about her appearance, but nothing about her broadcasting. In my opinion the weakest hours of BBC News today were 9.30-12.00. She was clearly uncomfortable broadcasting live within the BBC News brand, at one point during the headline sequence at 11am she started reading the headlines but diverged so much they dropped the headline bed and titles. Surely the BBC News presenter who would have been scheduled to do the newsroom updates (presumably Joanna Gosling or Anita McVeigh could have made it to Manchester in the same time as Victoria Derbyshire did? She does soft and fluffy 9-11 in her studo, this was anything but soft and fluffy...
Piers Morgan...no one knew anything about the perpetrators of this hideous crime yet on ITV breakfast he is allowed to get away with speculating that this attack is linked to Donald Trump visiting Saudi Arabia, no facts just pure unfiltered speculation! Surely less than 12 hours into a serious situation like this we should expect our public service broadcasters not to be broadcasting basix racism, actually, we should expect this at all times.
Victoria Derbyshire...much has been said on this forum about her appearance, but nothing about her broadcasting. In my opinion the weakest hours of BBC News today were 9.30-12.00. She was clearly uncomfortable broadcasting live within the BBC News brand, at one point during the headline sequence at 11am she started reading the headlines but diverged so much they dropped the headline bed and titles. Surely the BBC News presenter who would have been scheduled to do the newsroom updates (presumably Joanna Gosling or Anita McVeigh could have made it to Manchester in the same time as Victoria Derbyshire did? She does soft and fluffy 9-11 in her studo, this was anything but soft and fluffy...
CR
Indeed, when noticing the unfortunate choice of clothes I did also think that she seemed quite awkward presenting in BBC News mode. The headline sequence rambled a lot and spoke of what was coming up in the same way it would have if it was the normal Victoria Derbyshire programme - there was no 'this is BBC News, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, the headlines' stuff, it was if she'd never seen the news channel before and was guessing at how it works! Obviously I joke, but it did seem as if she was unsure to ditch the style of her normal programme or not.
Victoria Derbyshire...much has been said on this forum about her appearance, but nothing about her broadcasting. In my opinion the weakest hours of BBC News today were 9.30-12.00. She was clearly uncomfortable broadcasting live within the BBC News brand, at one point during the headline sequence at 11am she started reading the headlines but diverged so much they dropped the headline bed and titles. Surely the BBC News presenter who would have been scheduled to do the newsroom updates (presumably Joanna Gosling or Anita McVeigh could have made it to Manchester in the same time as Victoria Derbyshire did? She does soft and fluffy 9-11 in her studo, this was anything but soft and fluffy...
Indeed, when noticing the unfortunate choice of clothes I did also think that she seemed quite awkward presenting in BBC News mode. The headline sequence rambled a lot and spoke of what was coming up in the same way it would have if it was the normal Victoria Derbyshire programme - there was no 'this is BBC News, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, the headlines' stuff, it was if she'd never seen the news channel before and was guessing at how it works! Obviously I joke, but it did seem as if she was unsure to ditch the style of her normal programme or not.
RD
I think everyone has felt personally touched by these attacks, mainly because the obvious target was young children.
Newsreaders do an amazing job in reporting the facts but remarkably have to hold it together when reporting on the deaths of children in an incident that was practically on our doorstep.
Susanna Reid on Good Morning Britain was left trying to hold it together after a particularly distressing interview with a mother who didn't know where her daughter was. The moment in question is around the 4:25 mark on the video below. I'm sure everyone could sympathise after hearing what had happened and I think the interview really hit it home that families have been torn apart from the actions of inconsiderate individuals on innocent vulnerable children.
Newsreaders do an amazing job in reporting the facts but remarkably have to hold it together when reporting on the deaths of children in an incident that was practically on our doorstep.
Susanna Reid on Good Morning Britain was left trying to hold it together after a particularly distressing interview with a mother who didn't know where her daughter was. The moment in question is around the 4:25 mark on the video below. I'm sure everyone could sympathise after hearing what had happened and I think the interview really hit it home that families have been torn apart from the actions of inconsiderate individuals on innocent vulnerable children.
DU
Indeed, when noticing the unfortunate choice of clothes I did also think that she seemed quite awkward presenting in BBC News mode. The headline sequence rambled a lot and spoke of what was coming up in the same way it would have if it was the normal Victoria Derbyshire programme - there was no 'this is BBC News, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, the headlines' stuff, it was if she'd never seen the news channel before and was guessing at how it works! Obviously I joke, but it did seem as if she was unsure to ditch the style of her normal programme or not.
Like I said, I don't think she was the right person to send, Ben Brown & Anita McVeigh did an excellent job this afternoon. As has been suggested before, surely Louise Minchin could have stayed on? She is an experienced on location presenter, where Victoria Derbyshire showed her weaknesses this morning.
Victoria Derbyshire...much has been said on this forum about her appearance, but nothing about her broadcasting. In my opinion the weakest hours of BBC News today were 9.30-12.00. She was clearly uncomfortable broadcasting live within the BBC News brand, at one point during the headline sequence at 11am she started reading the headlines but diverged so much they dropped the headline bed and titles. Surely the BBC News presenter who would have been scheduled to do the newsroom updates (presumably Joanna Gosling or Anita McVeigh could have made it to Manchester in the same time as Victoria Derbyshire did? She does soft and fluffy 9-11 in her studo, this was anything but soft and fluffy...
Indeed, when noticing the unfortunate choice of clothes I did also think that she seemed quite awkward presenting in BBC News mode. The headline sequence rambled a lot and spoke of what was coming up in the same way it would have if it was the normal Victoria Derbyshire programme - there was no 'this is BBC News, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, the headlines' stuff, it was if she'd never seen the news channel before and was guessing at how it works! Obviously I joke, but it did seem as if she was unsure to ditch the style of her normal programme or not.
Like I said, I don't think she was the right person to send, Ben Brown & Anita McVeigh did an excellent job this afternoon. As has been suggested before, surely Louise Minchin could have stayed on? She is an experienced on location presenter, where Victoria Derbyshire showed her weaknesses this morning.
RN
Yes.
Indeed, when noticing the unfortunate choice of clothes I did also think that she seemed quite awkward presenting in BBC News mode. The headline sequence rambled a lot and spoke of what was coming up in the same way it would have if it was the normal Victoria Derbyshire programme - there was no 'this is BBC News, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, the headlines' stuff, it was if she'd never seen the news channel before and was guessing at how it works! Obviously I joke, but it did seem as if she was unsure to ditch the style of her normal programme or not.
Like I said, I don't think she was the right person to send, Ben Brown & Anita McVeigh did an excellent job this afternoon. As has been suggested before, surely Louise Minchin could have stayed on? She is an experienced on location presenter, where Victoria Derbyshire showed her weaknesses this morning.
Victoria was kinda the same when they sent her to present on location after the Westminster attacks, clearly out of her depth presenting outside her usual style of programming. Ben Brown did a far better job then too, who by the way is a million times better on location than he is in a studio. She's a good presenter, but as said above this is clearly a weakness of hers.
Are World News taking the 10?
Yes.
Victoria Derbyshire...much has been said on this forum about her appearance, but nothing about her broadcasting. In my opinion the weakest hours of BBC News today were 9.30-12.00. She was clearly uncomfortable broadcasting live within the BBC News brand, at one point during the headline sequence at 11am she started reading the headlines but diverged so much they dropped the headline bed and titles. Surely the BBC News presenter who would have been scheduled to do the newsroom updates (presumably Joanna Gosling or Anita McVeigh could have made it to Manchester in the same time as Victoria Derbyshire did? She does soft and fluffy 9-11 in her studo, this was anything but soft and fluffy...
Indeed, when noticing the unfortunate choice of clothes I did also think that she seemed quite awkward presenting in BBC News mode. The headline sequence rambled a lot and spoke of what was coming up in the same way it would have if it was the normal Victoria Derbyshire programme - there was no 'this is BBC News, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, the headlines' stuff, it was if she'd never seen the news channel before and was guessing at how it works! Obviously I joke, but it did seem as if she was unsure to ditch the style of her normal programme or not.
Like I said, I don't think she was the right person to send, Ben Brown & Anita McVeigh did an excellent job this afternoon. As has been suggested before, surely Louise Minchin could have stayed on? She is an experienced on location presenter, where Victoria Derbyshire showed her weaknesses this morning.
Victoria was kinda the same when they sent her to present on location after the Westminster attacks, clearly out of her depth presenting outside her usual style of programming. Ben Brown did a far better job then too, who by the way is a million times better on location than he is in a studio. She's a good presenter, but as said above this is clearly a weakness of hers.
GE
Three moments from the coverage of the last 24 hours have struck me.
- Last night the initial speculation/reports were of balloons bursting or concert speakers exploding. Then Clive Myrie interviewed the eyewitness who was thrown through a set of doors by the blast and who saw bodies on the floor. The reaction on Clive's face said it all - a look of disbelief and a dim realisation that this wasnt just a technical fault but something much more sinister.
- The GMB clip embedded above. Susanna Reid's understandabe, and very human reaction had me in tears, I have to admit.
- The PM's statement 30 minutes ago. Seemingly unscheduled as the news channels weren't trailing it, the PM making a live statement announcing that another attack may be imminent, just compounding the day's events.
What an awful day, on so many levels. Of course nothing could compare with the distress and suffering of the victims' loved ones, and of the injured and missing, as well as the emergency services and other personnel dealing with such incidents. But I think journalists and broadcasters deserve a lot of credit too. Yes there will always be arguments about obsessive coverage, sensationalism - even voyeurism. But those reporting on events like this are also mothers, fathers, sons and daughters. It must be incredibly difficult to fight back the emotions and remain completely professional and unbiased in such circumstances.
With the threat level now critical, I doubt coverage of this story will tail off too much over the coming days with everything that Operation Temperer may involve.
- Last night the initial speculation/reports were of balloons bursting or concert speakers exploding. Then Clive Myrie interviewed the eyewitness who was thrown through a set of doors by the blast and who saw bodies on the floor. The reaction on Clive's face said it all - a look of disbelief and a dim realisation that this wasnt just a technical fault but something much more sinister.
- The GMB clip embedded above. Susanna Reid's understandabe, and very human reaction had me in tears, I have to admit.
- The PM's statement 30 minutes ago. Seemingly unscheduled as the news channels weren't trailing it, the PM making a live statement announcing that another attack may be imminent, just compounding the day's events.
What an awful day, on so many levels. Of course nothing could compare with the distress and suffering of the victims' loved ones, and of the injured and missing, as well as the emergency services and other personnel dealing with such incidents. But I think journalists and broadcasters deserve a lot of credit too. Yes there will always be arguments about obsessive coverage, sensationalism - even voyeurism. But those reporting on events like this are also mothers, fathers, sons and daughters. It must be incredibly difficult to fight back the emotions and remain completely professional and unbiased in such circumstances.
With the threat level now critical, I doubt coverage of this story will tail off too much over the coming days with everything that Operation Temperer may involve.
VM
Is this News Report slide used nationally now or just for NI? When the Westminster attack occurred, network used a BBC News branded slide.
Either is preferable of course to the previous practice of using a normal ident, which never worked for introducing breaking news IMO.
BBC One NI faded out Graham Norton when they were due to go to the news channel at 0050 but before the end of the programme (were they running late?)
Is this News Report slide used nationally now or just for NI? When the Westminster attack occurred, network used a BBC News branded slide.
Either is preferable of course to the previous practice of using a normal ident, which never worked for introducing breaking news IMO.