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Manchester Terror Attack

On 22 May 2017, there was a suicide bombing at Manchester Arena which killed 22 people (May 2017)

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JO
Jon
Jon posted:
I speak not just as a colleague of Kay, nor just as someone disgusted by last night's events, but by anyone's efforts (however unintentional) to trivialise them, when I say this post offends me deeply.


You may not be a fan of Kay's, and that's your right, but a snide quip like that under circumstances like this is utterly uncalled-for.

It's a just joke, Kay Burley is basically Sky's Piers Morgan where people love to hate her I don't think the joke trivialises things, it's just a British trait to find some humour in even the most awful of circumstances. It's not really a joke about what happened at all.

There's a time and a place. The criticisms of Morgan have been down to his performance on-air this morning, which is fair game, whereas the remark about Kay was ad-hominem and not a discussion of the coverage itself. Very simple difference.

I was talking about Morgan generally, no idea what happened this morning.

I think you're probably taking it too personally due to being too close.
IS
Inspector Sands
Jon posted:

It's a just a joke, Kay Burley is basically Sky's Piers Morgan where people love to hate her I don't think the joke trivialises things, it's just a British trait to find some humour in even the most awful of circumstances. It's not really a joke about what happened at all.

Absolutely, it's the sort of black humour that is prevelant in newsrooms everywhere. Humour is how people get through horrific events, part of business as usual.


It's a joke about Kay herself, not the event. Skygeek, you may think my comment a bit crass and inappropriate, but maybe I'm just channeling Kay's reputation
JO
Jon
I'm sure this kinda thing would be like water off a ducks back to Kay.
SK
Skygeek
Jon posted:
I'm sure this kinda thing would be like water of a ducks back to Kay.

That is very true.
DV
DVB Cornwall
It might be the way newsrooms get through this sort of thing BUT it's taking advantage of the carnage of last night to repeat allegations, some of which are valid, against a presenter who must today be working in the most extreme of circumstances. It's a dig valid when politicians are mocked but when twenty plus young people, the youngest of which has been confirmed as eight, have died it's appallingly bad taste.
GO
gordonthegopher
Just watching the BBC NEWS on BBC one just approaching 1:45pm and there was a BREAKING NEWS caption put up on screen for the PM arriving at GMP HQ. Has that ever happened before on the 1, 6 or 10?
IS
Inspector Sands
Who needs Reuters when you've got Twitter in 2017

This is why:
https://www.facebook.com/aljazeera/videos/10155570808213690
SK
Skygeek
Who needs Reuters when you've got Twitter in 2017

This is why:
https://www.facebook.com/aljazeera/videos/10155570808213690

There was also someone claiming to be The Sun's Manchester correspondent, but who had only ever sent six tweets and had 25 followers, but who was getting a lot of pickup from Twitter users last night after claiming Sir Alex Ferguson was missing among the carnage.


Quite why people get off on doing that sort of stuff is beyond me, but mercifully, no mainstream platforms took the bait.
VM
VMPhil
Who needs Reuters when you've got Twitter in 2017

This is why:
https://www.facebook.com/aljazeera/videos/10155570808213690

Absolutely. I tend to avoid social media during breaking stories like this, misinformation is rife and there are ugly hoaxes like those in the video posted.


TV and radio may get some of the facts wrong in the very early stages of a breaking story but I am much more inclined to stick to them and avoid the social media channels completely, with the exception of this forum, if you want to call a forum social media (in fact these days I tend to find out a fair few breaking news stories from absentmindedly opening a browser and typing in tvf, including this one)
HA
Hazimworks
I might be wrong, but the ITV News youtube stream has just ended.
MA
Markymark
a presenter who must today be working in the most extreme of circumstances .


Most extreme of circumstances ?

Kay Burley stood in a Manchester street talking to a camera, she (as all do presenters) has the superb ability to talk and interview while being bombarded with instructions from the director and editors, I certainly couldn't do it, but come on, what are the actual consequences should she cock up ? Compared with say, an air traffic controller, a surgeon, a train driver, a crane operator.......
WH
Whitnall
Social media did have the first images from the area but even these were said to be fake, lots of confusion. How do the media companies work out what is real and what is not.

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