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London Terror Incidents

(June 2017)

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Steve in Pudsey
peterrocket posted:

Saying that, if what happened took place somewhere else like Leeds or a more rural town, the television from every broadcaster would have been drastically different.

A lot of last nights coverage would have been down to 4G - pity the broadcaster who rocked up with an SNG truck and then very quickly found the truck in an extended corden, and the crew forced back rendering the truck useless


Are there not receive points for COFDM radio cameras around London, so if the geography is kind you can get a feed back without needing a vehicle?
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liamfromnz
BBC1, NC and World back in Studio C with Duncan Golestani
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liamfromnz
BBC1, NC has Breakfast with Charlie Stat at Borough Market & Louise Minchin in the studio. BBC World News has David Eades at London Bridge & Sally Bundock in Studio C with Business.
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Rkolsen
Steve in Pudsey posted:
peterrocket posted:

Saying that, if what happened took place somewhere else like Leeds or a more rural town, the television from every broadcaster would have been drastically different.

A lot of last nights coverage would have been down to 4G - pity the broadcaster who rocked up with an SNG truck and then very quickly found the truck in an extended corden, and the crew forced back rendering the truck useless


Are there not receive points for COFDM radio cameras around London, so if the geography is kind you can get a feed back without needing a vehicle?

Do you guys have any info on the COFDM system or general OB microwave setup in London. I know it's nothing like in the US.

I did find an interesting article about the receivers and the London Marathon and it's temporary setup.

But back to the Terror attack coverage the David Eades / Sally Bundock split has been very good. I just come to realize that the over the past several months on Mondays specifically Sally has had to hold down fort while there was breaking news or election coverage.
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Markymark
Rkolsen posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
peterrocket posted:

Saying that, if what happened took place somewhere else like Leeds or a more rural town, the television from every broadcaster would have been drastically different.

A lot of last nights coverage would have been down to 4G - pity the broadcaster who rocked up with an SNG truck and then very quickly found the truck in an extended corden, and the crew forced back rendering the truck useless


Are there not receive points for COFDM radio cameras around London, so if the geography is kind you can get a feed back without needing a vehicle?

Do you guys have any info on the COFDM system or general OB microwave setup in London. I know it's nothing like in the US.


I don't think there are any permanent COFDM Rx points in London, others will know for sure though.
I suspect a combination of 4G (aka LTE) and D-Sat links were used, with perhaps COFDM linked cameras
working into those link vans ?

Vislink have some case studies on their website:-

https://www.vislink.com/solutions/broadcast-and-media-solutions/

Other COFDM vendors are available of course

http://broadcastrf.com/cobham-hd/
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liamfromnz
BBC2, NC and World have a BBC News special with Victoria Derbyshire
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mannewskev
peterrocket posted:
mannewskev posted:


I have 20 years in broadcast news, so your assumption is incorrect.


In that case, I'm shocked.

It doesn't make any logical or financial sense for a commercial broadcaster to have everything on 'stand-by' just incase something happens - especially late at night.

If it did they may as well just run a news channel.

Saying that, if what happened took place somewhere else like Leeds or a more rural town, the television output from every broadcaster would have been drastically different.

A lot of last nights coverage would have been down to 4G - pity the broadcaster who rocked up with an SNG truck and then very quickly found the truck in an extended corden, and the crew forced back rendering the truck useless



Don't be shocked. I have a view. It differs from yours. That surely cannot be shocking to you. Further, at no point have I said that ITV should have "everything on 'stand-by'" late at night, so you are misrepresenting my comments.
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mannewskev
Inspector Sands posted:
Brekkie posted:
Andrew posted:
By the time it was known that something that wasn't an accident had occurred in Manchester, everyone had gone home

Going over old ground but as a newsgathering organisation they should have been hanging around waiting for confirmation of what was happening. It was clear something was happening but initially unclear how serious it was - but it was potentially a terrorist attack. I'm sure many of us here have had to hang around at work a bit longer than we'd like waiting for something that may or may not have happened.

But you don't hang around at work every night just in case something does happen. When they came off air nothing had happened and the first reports of something happening were 20 minutes away.


Do you want ITV News staff to hang around for 20 minutes after every bulletin just in case? What happens if a major news story breaks 25 minutes after the bulletin?


No, but in the 7 and a half hours after the biggest news story of the year breaks, I expect the country's biggest commercial public service broadcaster to do something on air, just something. Doesn't have to be open-ended, but something.
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TROGGLES
Surely budgets are not that tight that Its not beyond the capability of a night editor to pick up a phone and dispatch a crew?
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Shaun Linden
From DS Forums:

Saturday overnights (Other channels):
1 BT Sport 2 - 07:00 PM Live Juventus v Real Madrid 1.783m 9.2%
2 BBC News - 11:45 PM BBC News 1.347m 15.3%
3 BBC News - 11:00 PM BBC News 1.252m 11.3%
4 BBC News - 12:00 AM BBC News 1.234m 16.6%
5 Sky News - 11:00 PM Sky News at 11 1.010m 8.7%
6 Sky News - 11:30 PM Sky News 982k 10.5%
7 BBC News - 12:30 AM BBC News 933k 15.5%
8 Sky News - 12:00 AM Sky Midnight News 932k 12.5%
9 Sky News - 12:30 AM Sky News 670k 11.1%
10 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Cardinal 622k 2.9%


Great ratings for Sky News and BBC News Channel.
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Worzel
liamfromnz posted:
BBC2, NC and World have a BBC News special with Victoria Derbyshire


Once again, as with the Manchester attack she didn't seem to know that she was presenting a generic BBC News bulletin instead of her usual show. It was very poor indeed. What's wrong with starting like everyone else 'this is BBC News, I'm Victoria Derbyshire live in the Capital, the Headlines at 9'?

She's a talented radio journalist and is excellent as a studio-based presenter but on location, the cracks start to show.

I will say Kasia Madera, Jane Hill, David Eades, Tim Willcox, Charlie Stayt and Ben Brown have been very good on location. I was also impressed with Ben Thompson on BBC Breakfast on Sunday morning with the studio based reaction.

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