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I see where you're coming from, but at the end of the day the BBC is being economical with your money by choosing not to spend it on encryption. Would you rather your money be spent on programmes or on preventing others seeing said programmes?
And what about those who do actually pay for BBC's UK channels, like in Ireland and the Netherlands? I see no difference between local broadcasters buying rights to BBC shows and cable providers buying rights to entire stations. Admittedly we're watching programmes originally produced for and paid for by British audiences but at the end of the day it's more money being pumped back in to the BBC, keeping the cost of the licence fee lower.
If the BBC is being paid by foreign countries for the rights to their programmes, then that's fine - it's all legit and the BBC is getting extra funding. What I have a problem with is someone installing a satellite dish, buying a cheap receiver and being able to enjoy all of the BBC's domestic output that we, the British people, have to pay for - and it doesn't come cheap, either. Otherwise, we may as well all move to Europe and enjoy our own television for free, too. We'd also benefit from getting out of the mess that is this country and we'd probably all be a lot safer too! But, that's another story...
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Able to watching BBC1,2,3,4,CBBC,Ceebiebes
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Able to watching BBC News, BBC Parliament
Any idea why are BBC News and BBC Parliament available across Europe?
richard79 posted:
itsrobert posted:
pickle104 posted:
itsrobert posted:
...my personal feeling is that no BBC domestic channels should be viewable outside of the British Isles. After all, we have to pay a hefty licence fee for those channels so it isn't fair for people in Europe to be enjoying programming for which we have to foot the bill.
I see where you're coming from, but at the end of the day the BBC is being economical with your money by choosing not to spend it on encryption. Would you rather your money be spent on programmes or on preventing others seeing said programmes?
And what about those who do actually pay for BBC's UK channels, like in Ireland and the Netherlands? I see no difference between local broadcasters buying rights to BBC shows and cable providers buying rights to entire stations. Admittedly we're watching programmes originally produced for and paid for by British audiences but at the end of the day it's more money being pumped back in to the BBC, keeping the cost of the licence fee lower.
If the BBC is being paid by foreign countries for the rights to their programmes, then that's fine - it's all legit and the BBC is getting extra funding. What I have a problem with is someone installing a satellite dish, buying a cheap receiver and being able to enjoy all of the BBC's domestic output that we, the British people, have to pay for - and it doesn't come cheap, either. Otherwise, we may as well all move to Europe and enjoy our own television for free, too. We'd also benefit from getting out of the mess that is this country and we'd probably all be a lot safer too! But, that's another story...
http://www.insatinternational.com/footprint_images/astramap1.jpg
Able to watching BBC1,2,3,4,CBBC,Ceebiebes
http://www.insatinternational.com/footprint_images/astramap2.jpg
Able to watching BBC News, BBC Parliament
Any idea why are BBC News and BBC Parliament available across Europe?
NG
Any idea why are BBC News and BBC Parliament available across Europe?
BBC News and BBC Parliament, along with some of the BBCi and BBC Radio feeds, are carried on transponders on Astra 2A or 2B - which cover the bulk of mainland Europe.
The other BBC channels, most ITV channels, and the FTA C4/E4/More4 etc. streams are carried on the Astra 2D satellite which is on a tighter UK/Ireland beam.
Originally the BBC were on 2A/2B but were encrypted - so there were no issues with the rest of Europe being in the footprint. However when the BBC ditched Sky's proprietary encryption (and used the savings to pay for the BBC One regions on DSat) they had to shift them to a narrow beam, to avoid breaching their rights agreements on sporting events, acquired programmes etc.
BBC News and BBC Parliament can be carried on a wide beam even though they are FTA (free-to-air - i.e. unencrypted) because they don't have the same rights issues as general channels. It isn't like BBC News show the latest Hollywood movies, live football matches or US dramas.
There is a shortage of transponders with the narrow UK beam (really only possible on 2D AIUI) on the Astra 2/Eurobird slot, which is an issue for UK broadcasters wishing to broadcast on freesat if they have rights agreements for their content that only cover the UK and Ireland. You can't broadcast on the wide 2A/2B/Eurobird beams unless you either encrypt, or have Europe-wide rights for your content.
noggin
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yaloh posted:
Any idea why are BBC News and BBC Parliament available across Europe?
BBC News and BBC Parliament, along with some of the BBCi and BBC Radio feeds, are carried on transponders on Astra 2A or 2B - which cover the bulk of mainland Europe.
The other BBC channels, most ITV channels, and the FTA C4/E4/More4 etc. streams are carried on the Astra 2D satellite which is on a tighter UK/Ireland beam.
Originally the BBC were on 2A/2B but were encrypted - so there were no issues with the rest of Europe being in the footprint. However when the BBC ditched Sky's proprietary encryption (and used the savings to pay for the BBC One regions on DSat) they had to shift them to a narrow beam, to avoid breaching their rights agreements on sporting events, acquired programmes etc.
BBC News and BBC Parliament can be carried on a wide beam even though they are FTA (free-to-air - i.e. unencrypted) because they don't have the same rights issues as general channels. It isn't like BBC News show the latest Hollywood movies, live football matches or US dramas.
There is a shortage of transponders with the narrow UK beam (really only possible on 2D AIUI) on the Astra 2/Eurobird slot, which is an issue for UK broadcasters wishing to broadcast on freesat if they have rights agreements for their content that only cover the UK and Ireland. You can't broadcast on the wide 2A/2B/Eurobird beams unless you either encrypt, or have Europe-wide rights for your content.
FL
I reckon the first bulletin from the new set will probably be 5am BST and that is always 3 way similcast between BBC One/News/World News, Also it will be seen on BBC 4 at 7 for WNT and on the NC for the warm up for NA10
Jugalug posted:
I have to say, the set is looking great. Really modern and I reckon the newsroom backing will look great! The screen will look good too I think if it is used well.
I hope somebody will be ready with their capture device on Monday, as I can't get BBC World!
Thanks!
I hope somebody will be ready with their capture device on Monday, as I can't get BBC World!
Thanks!
JO
I reckon the first bulletin from the new set will probably be 5am BST and that is always 3 way similcast between BBC One/News/World News, Also it will be seen on BBC 4 at 7 for WNT and on the NC for the warm up for NA10
Even if I set an alarm I wouldn't be able to get up! The earliest I managed was 6am for the new Breakfast (yes, sad ain't it!) and that was '06 (I think) but I'm different now and couldn't do 5am!
flaziola posted:
Jugalug posted:
I have to say, the set is looking great. Really modern and I reckon the newsroom backing will look great! The screen will look good too I think if it is used well.
I hope somebody will be ready with their capture device on Monday, as I can't get BBC World! Thanks!
I hope somebody will be ready with their capture device on Monday, as I can't get BBC World!
Thanks!
Even if I set an alarm I wouldn't be able to get up! The earliest I managed was 6am for the new Breakfast (yes, sad ain't it!) and that was '06 (I think) but I'm different now and couldn't do 5am!
AC
Yes they do. Digital Spy have featured an article about the BBC World News studio change on Monday: Click here
WO
I'm still appalled that the BBC News Channel is suffering from what seems a terrible idea of moving the station to N6 and BBC World News being able to get away with being in N8.
What will happen to the move to BH? BBC News Channel being shoved in a broom cupboard somewhere so BBC WN gets the whole news centre to itself?
What will happen to the move to BH? BBC News Channel being shoved in a broom cupboard somewhere so BBC WN gets the whole news centre to itself?