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The BBC's Global 24 Hour News Channel (April 2008)

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EY
the eye
Eww the Hardtalk straps are quite bad.
MO
Moz
the eye posted:
Eww the Hardtalk straps are quite bad.

Have they at last updated them? Watched the other night and they still had the old ones.
EY
the eye
Moz posted:
the eye posted:
Eww the Hardtalk straps are quite bad.

Have they at last updated them? Watched the other night and they still had the old ones.


Yes, they are fine apart from the fact the letters are too big and way to close together.
MO
Moz
the eye posted:
Moz posted:
the eye posted:
Eww the Hardtalk straps are quite bad.

Have they at last updated them? Watched the other night and they still had the old ones.


Yes, they are fine apart from the fact the letters are too big and way to close together.

Just seen them on iPlayer - awful aren't they. Fade in, fade out, no animation and don't line up.

What is it with them not being able to get them to line up? I know they're probably generated by different graphics systems, but surely you can control where they appear on screen with any system?
EY
the eye
Moz posted:
the eye posted:
Moz posted:
the eye posted:
Eww the Hardtalk straps are quite bad.

Have they at last updated them? Watched the other night and they still had the old ones.


Yes, they are fine apart from the fact the letters are too big and way to close together.

Just seen them on iPlayer - awful aren't they. Fade in, fade out, no animation and don't line up.

What is it with them not being able to get them to line up? I know they're probably generated by different graphics systems, but surely you can control where they appear on screen with any system?


They do line up actually.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Lyse Doucet in Bangkok, anchoring the Burma cyclone coverage.
MO
Moz
the eye posted:
Moz posted:
the eye posted:
Moz posted:
the eye posted:
Eww the Hardtalk straps are quite bad.

Have they at last updated them? Watched the other night and they still had the old ones.


Yes, they are fine apart from the fact the letters are too big and way to close together.

Just seen them on iPlayer - awful aren't they. Fade in, fade out, no animation and don't line up.

What is it with them not being able to get them to line up? I know they're probably generated by different graphics systems, but surely you can control where they appear on screen with any system?


They do line up actually.


May be tricky to see from this cap, but no they don't.

http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/hardtalk.jpg

The black strap's left edge is further left than the edge of the DOG. Only by a pixel, but it's a very noticeable pixel.
EY
the eye
Hate to break it to you but they do on BBC World, i'll get a cap next time its on.
PE
Pete Founding member
in which case it suggests that it's being generated on the BBC World stream and then sent to News 24 rather than controlling the news 24 graphic system by remote control.

IIRC didn't the old world graphics used to be a pixel lower than the N24 clock due to the time it took to travel along the cables round TV centre to the News 24 gallery?
IK
Ivan_Katsarov
Lucy Hockings is back, presenting BBC World News Very Happy
NG
noggin Founding member
Hymagumba posted:
in which case it suggests that it's being generated on the BBC World stream and then sent to News 24 rather than controlling the news 24 graphic system by remote control.


Hardtalk's captions are added during the studio recording, or in the edit in the case of location recordings. They aren't generated live or by "remote control".

Now we're in the digital world stuff should line up - but it doesn't always.

Quote:


IIRC didn't the old world graphics used to be a pixel lower than the N24 clock due to the time it took to travel along the cables round TV centre to the News 24 gallery?


Not strictly - more a case that the two gallery outputs were timed to match (i.e. they both arrived at central routing areas in-sync), thus if one was routed through the other it was delayed by a line or two. Not the cable length - just the fact that digital vision mixers and connectivity introduces a couple of TV lines of delay relative to the source (as well as some kit introducing a field or three of delay).
EY
the eye
I see the Markets music is now playing again, but Coming Up hasn't been fixed.

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