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14th January 2013 - The Worlds Newsroom (January 2013)

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bilky asko
scottishtv posted:
Thanks for all the replies! It does explain it.

The SNT Three posted:
If it's a composite shot, then I don't know why they don't just go for a standard split-screen. I've always thought it looks a bit silly having them on the screens looking ever so slightly warped, and it feels even sillier now I know it isn't even real!

I agree entirely. I liked the former standard split screen as the presenters were actually looking at you - now the slight angles of the screens make it a bit awkward looking.

In actual fact, if the only real utilisation of the studio is that 2 second high shot at the start then why bother having the studio in use at all? I know the London presenter is actually in the same studio at the time of transmission, but surely you could instead stick them in front of a CSO in a cupboard somewhere if the bulk of the programme is made up a of electronically created shot of the screens rather than a live shot from that camera in front of them?

Occasionally there are in-studio interviews done in London, so that is one reason why it's not in a cupboard.
SC
scottishtv Founding member
Ah, yes, a good point.

I don't see why they couldn't each have the other on a screen next to them in each studio (maybe space limitations in Singapore). I suppose it would involve more camera shots rather than the simple straight on shot. Still, at the moment, I feel like I'm sitting in on someone else's video conference call.

I'm not disputing the content of the show - I like the mix of stories and the fact it's done across the two locations - just the execution seems a little wanting.
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Steve in Pudsey
That would require another circuit from London to Singapore. The delays would probably make it look a bit awkward too.
NG
noggin Founding member
scottishtv posted:
Ah, yes, a good point.

I don't see why they couldn't each have the other on a screen next to them in each studio (maybe space limitations in Singapore). I suppose it would involve more camera shots rather than the simple straight on shot. Still, at the moment, I feel like I'm sitting in on someone else's video conference call.

You could end up with some awful delay repetition if you're not careful - in-vision reverse vision monitors and satellite links (or even Long GOP fibre circuits) don't mix.
HO
House
If it's keyed in, rather than a live shot, why could they not have made the shot so that the London and Singapore presenters were at the same angle? The angle of the 'London' screen always appears to be far more obvious.
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bilky asko
House posted:
If it's keyed in, rather than a live shot, why could they not have made the shot so that the London and Singapore presenters were at the same angle? The angle of the 'London' screen always appears to be far more obvious.

Because presumably they need to match it up with the shot. I don't think it would be easy (or worth the effort) to fiddle around with the camera to get the shot perfectly even.
NG
noggin Founding member
House posted:
If it's keyed in, rather than a live shot, why could they not have made the shot so that the London and Singapore presenters were at the same angle? The angle of the 'London' screen always appears to be far more obvious.


I think it's a composite but the background is from a real camera shot - so it emulates what is in the studio. I think you could argue it would be more obviously a composite if it was symmetrical?

Personally, and it's a purely personal opinion, I really don't see the point in pretending it's a studio shot, when the London presenter is in the studio in the first place... Either split-screen, or use the London studio normally. The current scenario is a bit contrived isn't it?
FL
flaziola
To be fair guys it's only on screen for all of 30 seconds an hour.
RO
rob Founding member
bakamann posted:
errr... back to the topic. Earlier at GMT with George Alagiah they have a representative of the 1st Opera Awards, which also performed on the program before the bottom of the hour... this is the first time the second set was used by the GMT program.

And this is the second time that they have done musical performance on BBC World News, first one was on Impact with an Indian drum player... Any considerations for a weekly lifestyle/culture program that is using Studio B? Very Happy


There was also this one...

http://www.tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/bbcworld/2013/impact/performance2.jpg
HA
harshy Founding member
I think its fair to say BBC World News use Studio B extremely well indeed, the coloured lighting scheme is amazing on these branded bulletins, we dont really see this on the news channel.
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DTV
Just a quick question - How do they do the bit at the start of Newsday?
NJ
news junkie
DTV posted:
Just a quick question - How do they do the bit at the start of Newsday?


are you talking about the split screen when the cameras move?

A few pages back this was discussed and it was revealed that it is a graphic rather than a live shot

bilky asko posted:
The double shot of the screens is actually simulated - it's just a static shot of the screens with the two of them composited in.

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