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14th January 2013 - The Worlds Newsroom (January 2013)

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IT
itsrobert Founding member
Another botched TOTH at 1000 GMT. The vamp started playing, the presenter started to read the headlines before suddenly stopping and saying something like "OK, let's go to..." and began reading the first story. No titles - and the vamp just faded out.

I appreciate that things like this have happened for as long as television news has existed, but I think it's safe to argue that since the introduction of increased automation in the shape of Mosart, things across BBC News output have gone a little haywire.
GE
thegeek Founding member
I appreciate that things like this have happened for as long as television news has existed, but I think it's safe to argue that since the introduction of increased automation in the shape of Mosart, things across BBC News output have gone a little haywire.
I think I might have mentioned it before, but I think the bathtub curve can probably be invoked at this point.
MB
Media Boy
Another botched TOTH at 1000 GMT. The vamp started playing, the presenter started to read the headlines before suddenly stopping and saying something like "OK, let's go to..." and began reading the first story. No titles - and the vamp just faded out.

I appreciate that things like this have happened for as long as television news has existed, but I think it's safe to argue that since the introduction of increased automation in the shape of Mosart, things across BBC News output have gone a little haywire.


I disagree, well I would wouldn't I?
There have always been problems with automation on BBC News ever since it was launched in 1997.
The amount of mistakes, over a general 24 hour period, is much smaller now than its ever been.
The issue this time round, is that mistakes with cameras, which, it must be pointed out, are mostly director error, in that they send cameras off on the wrong direction and its not the automation. This is the learning curve and this will calm down.
When things go massively wrong, then yes, it can be spectacular, and if you lose total automation, it's not as easy to get back on track. But people are learning about the system, and the ways to get out of GUI crashes, and automation failure.
It's also important to note that we are developing this system, and learning as we go, because, in typical BBC fashion, we are asking much more of the systems than they have ever been deigned to do.
Everyone, from technical to production, have played a blinder in getting to grips with it, and most would, when pushed, say that it's much more intuitive than anything else we've used in the past.
FL
flaziola
What they should have is one fixed camera with a central shot of the desk, so that if the others go walkies they can cut to it until the problem is sorted.
MB
Media Boy
What they should have is one fixed camera with a central shot of the desk, so that if the others go walkies they can cut to it until the problem is sorted.


Errrrrrr.... they do.
Camera 3.
GE
genie
WN is carrying The Boat Race from 16.00 - 17.00 BST, so right now. Just the transparent BBC World News logo and BBC Sport DOGs. Clare Balding introduced the coverage from BBC One as a welcome to BBC World News viewers. Funny as how reluctant the beeb are in general to mention WN's existence.
HA
harshy Founding member
But why is World News carrying a sports event it's a news and current affairs channel shouldn't it be on BBC HD Europe?
BA
bakamann
genie posted:
Funny as how reluctant the beeb are in general to mention WN's existence.

Just the same with BBC WN viewers not mentioning that they are being aired on BBC Two (for 11:30am bulletin) and BBC Four (for World News Today), except when Nik Gowing is presenting.

Why can't they say "We welcome viewers in the UK on BBC Two", despite the fact that it is perfectly understandable since they are "the BBC."


But why is World News carrying a sports event it's a news and current affairs channel shouldn't it be on BBC HD Europe?

Maybe BBC Sport wants a larger audience, without the hassle of distributing it to foreign sports broadcasters... and the Boat Race itself just last for more than 15 mins for so.
GE
thegeek Founding member
But why is World News carrying a sports event it's a news and current affairs channel shouldn't it be on BBC HD Europe?

I'm not sure World even took it in HD today.

Maybe BBC Sport wants a larger audience, without the hassle of distributing it to foreign sports broadcasters... and the Boat Race itself just last for more than 15 mins for so.
hassle? nah, it's easy! Smile The OB is being linked back to BT Tower, so broadcasters can either pick it up from there; or via TVC and the EBU.
There's quite a long list of international takers - some of which are also FTA and available in the same territories as World. I wonder if the sponsor are keen for it to have as wide an audience as possible?
MI
Mike516
But why is World News carrying a sports event it's a news and current affairs channel shouldn't it be on BBC HD Europe?


Of all the international channels from the BBC, World News is the only TV channel that shows content from BBC Sport. BBC Sport content is available internationally on services run by BBC Global News, i.e. BBC World News and BBC World Service (e.g. Sportsworld) and international versions of the news and sport website. The Boat Race is unusual in that the BBC have international TV broadcast rights for it; there is no other event like it.

All other output from the BBC internationally is operated by BBC Worldwide, a seperate division (although BBC Worldwide distribute BBC WN). With the exception of BBC America, BBC Worldwide channels don't do news and sport (anymore).

There is actually no such thing as BBC HD Europe. It's either BBC HD Nordic, BBC HD Polska or BBC HD Turkey*. The channel isn't officially distributed outside of those territories in Europe.

*other BBC HD channels available in other parts of the world.
BA
bakamann
What they should have is one fixed camera with a central shot of the desk, so that if the others go walkies they can cut to it until the problem is sorted.


Errrrrrr.... they do.
Camera 3.


*
I believe, the one that is overlapped by the live BBC WN logo is the fixed camera on Studio C...
and I think they use that sometimes for its end shot, probably when something goes wrong to the camera that is shooting this same scene.
GE
genie
What they should have is one fixed camera with a central shot of the desk, so that if the others go walkies they can cut to it until the problem is sorted.


To make everything clear, see here folks:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/getty/article/ALeqM5jIaXm-2j312QfAMTe05YAECf3qiw?docId=163941881

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