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14th January 2013 - The Worlds Newsroom (January 2013)

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noggin Founding member

Like Noggin says, this kind of thing used to happen before automation too


Not quite what I was saying - though I agree it did.

BBC News has been using automation for captions, vision mixing etc. since the 90s after all - automation hasn't arrived this year...
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Aarons away to get his tool box. These Aussie dudes, gotta luv 'em!


Aaron really has trouble with these "dancing cameras". Getting the tool box wanting to fix them.


There a clip somewhere else, the producers feared he was going to touch the cameras and arron told us that he was being told off in his ear piece.


Well I reckon the cameras being robots are set on a fixed script, whilst Aaron must drift off it trying to ad-lib the camera dosent know anything better other then follow the fixed script set by the director, hence camera looks like its doing its own thing because Aaron dosent follow scripts? Confused
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Watched that LIVE. Hilarious moment!
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noggin Founding member

Well I reckon the cameras being robots are set on a fixed script, whilst Aaron must drift off it trying to ad-lib the camera dosent know anything better other then follow the fixed script set by the director, hence camera looks like its doing its own thing because Aaron dosent follow scripts? Confused


That looks simply like a director thinking Aaron was moving on to the markets (which is a walk to the next screen with a camera move to follow him), and pre-empting the move slightly, but Aaron instead digressing and not moving when the director was expecting him to. Because of the nature of automation systems - you usually need to cue camera moves slightly before you want them - so it makes it even trickier.
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Well I reckon the cameras being robots are set on a fixed script, whilst Aaron must drift off it trying to ad-lib the camera dosent know anything better other then follow the fixed script set by the director, hence camera looks like its doing its own thing because Aaron dosent follow scripts? Confused

That was what I thought, they must have set timings on programs like World Business Report and the cameras are linked into that, I haven't seen Sally Bundock have any trouble at that point (yet!).
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Well I reckon the cameras being robots are set on a fixed script, whilst Aaron must drift off it trying to ad-lib the camera dosent know anything better other then follow the fixed script set by the director, hence camera looks like its doing its own thing because Aaron dosent follow scripts? Confused

That was what I thought, they must have set timings on programs like World Business Report and the cameras are linked into that, I haven't seen Sally Bundock have any trouble at that point (yet!).


Don't think the camera moves are tied to specific timings (you need flexibility to keep your programme on-time after all) Think it's just people getting used to the new format (both presenters and directors), and the new technology. It's a big change for people both in front and behind the cameras.
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samwsmith1
Well I reckon the cameras being robots are set on a fixed script, whilst Aaron must drift off it trying to ad-lib the camera dosent know anything better other then follow the fixed script set by the director, hence camera looks like its doing its own thing because Aaron dosent follow scripts? Confused

That was what I thought, they must have set timings on programs like World Business Report and the cameras are linked into that, I haven't seen Sally Bundock have any trouble at that point (yet!).


Don't think the camera moves are tied to specific timings (you need flexibility to keep your programme on-time after all) Think it's just people getting used to the new format (both presenters and directors), and the new technology. It's a big change for people both in front and behind the cameras.

Ah right, I wasn't sure as whenever I've watched, Sally Bundock has always managed to walk along and get the markets to appear at the right time. Of course Sally has most probably done more editions in the new studios than Aaron has.
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noggin Founding member
Well I reckon the cameras being robots are set on a fixed script, whilst Aaron must drift off it trying to ad-lib the camera dosent know anything better other then follow the fixed script set by the director, hence camera looks like its doing its own thing because Aaron dosent follow scripts? Confused

That was what I thought, they must have set timings on programs like World Business Report and the cameras are linked into that, I haven't seen Sally Bundock have any trouble at that point (yet!).


Don't think the camera moves are tied to specific timings (you need flexibility to keep your programme on-time after all) Think it's just people getting used to the new format (both presenters and directors), and the new technology. It's a big change for people both in front and behind the cameras.

Ah right, I wasn't sure as whenever I've watched, Sally Bundock has always managed to walk along and get the markets to appear at the right time. Of course Sally has most probably done more editions in the new studios than Aaron has.


I think it's a case of both directors and presenters finding their feet in a more complex set-up. The screen mix at the end of the camera move could be triggered as part of the same automation command - but equally it could be split. No real way of knowing.

However the inherent delay in a lot of automation systems (because you can't pre-cue things reliably in a breaking news operation you have to allow pre-cue time on the 'take' instruction) means that to keep things looking slick you need to be able to anticipate what your presenter is going to do. Which means they either need to be predictable, or you need to be able to 'read' them.
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JamesWorldNews
Bloody hell. We need to sort out those wraps. Messy.

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