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14th January 2013 - The Worlds Newsroom (January 2013)

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itsrobert Founding member
Gosh that's a surprise to learn Talking Movies has been reduced to a short 5-minute segment. Talking Movies traditionally had a 30-minute slot every week and was repeated several times per week like the other BBC World programmes. I guess it was all part of making the channel into a rolling news station like News 24. Years ago there were news bulletins every hour but many more non-news programmes in the back half hours. Some of the programmes were very diverse - I remember watching a science programme on there once and weekends always had long (and frankly quite dull) documentaries. It's a shame they couldn't have kept a balance between news and features. I agree with getting rid of the weekend documentaries, but it would have been nice to keep some of the programmes on culture, art, science, travel etc.
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Connews
I'd bet they're cashing in on CNN's decision to go in the other direction!
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itsrobert Founding member
Oh yes, CNN's a joke these days. It's always a programme about golf, sailing or World Sport whenever I tune in. It's very rare to stumble upon a news programme nowadays. No wonder BBC World's doing so well - CNN always used to dominate but BBC World is by far the best international news channel now, even if it is pretty much wall-to-wall news.
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LeeWN
itsrobert posted:
Gosh that's a surprise to learn Talking Movies has been reduced to a short 5-minute segment. Talking Movies traditionally had a 30-minute slot every week and was repeated several times per week like the other BBC World programmes. I guess it was all part of making the channel into a rolling news station like News 24. Years ago there were news bulletins every hour but many more non-news programmes in the back half hours. Some of the programmes were very diverse - I remember watching a science programme on there once and weekends always had long (and frankly quite dull) documentaries. It's a shame they couldn't have kept a balance between news and features. I agree with getting rid of the weekend documentaries, but it would have been nice to keep some of the programmes on culture, art, science, travel etc.


Not all documentaries, at other times at weekends, there are still 5-minute bulletins (with no opening titles at all!), some are 10 minutes (followed by a 15min. prog then another at 30mins.) and other, which I love to see, full 25-minute bulletins, and you can see repeats of UK Reporters and Reporters at different times after the 10-minute bulletin!
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LeeWN
itsrobert posted:
Oh yes, CNN's a joke these days. It's always a programme about golf, sailing or World Sport whenever I tune in. It's very rare to stumble upon a news programme nowadays. No wonder BBC World's doing so well - CNN always used to dominate but BBC World is by far the best international news channel now, even if it is pretty much wall-to-wall news.


Yes, there are few full half-hour bulletins but most of the time are summaries. That's what I hate about CNNI.


Remember, Talking Movies used to air also on News 24 during around 2003-2004 or 2005 I think.
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bakamann
LeeWorldNews posted:
itsrobert posted:
ginnyfan posted:
I wish World would air "The Film Review" (formerly known as Film 24) on Fridays and weekends, just like NC. It would fit in well and I love these kind of programs.

Does BBC World still have Talking Movies? That was always a staple of the BBC World schedule, although it's several years since I last saw it. Maybe I just haven't tuned in at the right time, though.


Yes it still airs, but only as a 5-minute segment (you might have noticed rushed endings to Sport Today) before the bulletins (sharing with Fast Track, Click, etc. during the week), which I think is a bad idea. I always thought it's great, and has nice features on movies that are talked about. I wonder when did it started?


I believe I still saw Talking Movies as a full program a few months ago, maybe they are now bi-monthly or so... but they indeed had more output on that 5-minute short version.
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LeeWN
bakamann posted:
LeeWorldNews posted:
itsrobert posted:
ginnyfan posted:
I wish World would air "The Film Review" (formerly known as Film 24) on Fridays and weekends, just like NC. It would fit in well and I love these kind of programs.

Does BBC World still have Talking Movies? That was always a staple of the BBC World schedule, although it's several years since I last saw it. Maybe I just haven't tuned in at the right time, though.


Yes it still airs, but only as a 5-minute segment (you might have noticed rushed endings to Sport Today) before the bulletins (sharing with Fast Track, Click, etc. during the week), which I think is a bad idea. I always thought it's great, and has nice features on movies that are talked about. I wonder when did it started?


I believe I still saw Talking Movies as a full program a few months ago, maybe they are now bi-monthly or so... but they indeed had more output on that 5-minute short version.


Nah, for me I last saw it as a 30-minute programme in around April/May last year. I went back to my province seeing it being shortened.
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Mike516
There was a regular length Talking Movies last month on the weekend before the Oscars.
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Mike516
itsrobert posted:
Oh yes, CNN's a joke these days. It's always a programme about golf, sailing or World Sport whenever I tune in. It's very rare to stumble upon a news programme nowadays. No wonder BBC World's doing so well - CNN always used to dominate but BBC World is by far the best international news channel now, even if it is pretty much wall-to-wall news.


Turned on CNN the other day and saw "CNN Football Club". That was at 5pm GMT/ 6pm CET. It should be a prime news slot! Such shows should be on at the weekend or at :30 not :00. Anyway, back to BBC World News...
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tmorgan96
itsrobert posted:
Oh yes, CNN's a joke these days. It's always a programme about golf, sailing or World Sport whenever I tune in. It's very rare to stumble upon a news programme nowadays. No wonder BBC World's doing so well - CNN always used to dominate but BBC World is by far the best international news channel now, even if it is pretty much wall-to-wall news.


That's all I want in a news channel: wall-to-wall news. None of this "specialty" Rolex programming; just the news. Last I checked, a news channel meant meant bulletins around the clock.

CNN has to lift its game, because the BBC is rolling them at the moment. Nothing is more frustrating than sitting down for a hit of the headlines and finding some obscure yacht-owner talking about a race only 6 people actually know about. It really baffles me that CNN find this acceptable.

Anyways, kudos to BBC WN. Great channel.
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bakamann
It seems there is something wrong with BBC WN's main news bulletin ticker, because all it shows for the past few hour is " • • • • • • • " or totally blank.
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itsrobert Founding member
tmorgan96 posted:
itsrobert posted:
Oh yes, CNN's a joke these days. It's always a programme about golf, sailing or World Sport whenever I tune in. It's very rare to stumble upon a news programme nowadays. No wonder BBC World's doing so well - CNN always used to dominate but BBC World is by far the best international news channel now, even if it is pretty much wall-to-wall news.


That's all I want in a news channel: wall-to-wall news. None of this "specialty" Rolex programming; just the news. Last I checked, a news channel meant meant bulletins around the clock.

CNN has to lift its game, because the BBC is rolling them at the moment. Nothing is more frustrating than sitting down for a hit of the headlines and finding some obscure yacht-owner talking about a race only 6 people actually know about. It really baffles me that CNN find this acceptable.

Anyways, kudos to BBC WN. Great channel.

I didn't necessarily mean programmes about yachting like CNN has. Those sorts of programmes certainly do not have a place on a rolling news channel. But I enjoyed BBC World much more when it wasn't just news programmes, Sport Today and WBR pretty much on a loop. Programmes like Asia Today, Talking Movies, Europe Direct, Earth Report and many others that filled the back half hours during the 2000s were really quite enjoyable. Some had interesting features and/or raised current affairs issues that weren't a million miles away from "news". And you were never more than 30 minutes away from a live news bulletin. For me, they had a good balance back then and I certainly watched more of it than I do now. But, I guess a lot of people just want news, news, news so that's what they've got.

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