IN
For anyone interested, it doesn't seem to be affecting BBC Arabic, which apparently got a new countdown and lower thirds recently.
SP
Did Breakfast start late or was Ben's extra half hour just for World?
Surprised they don't have the generic London backdrop on some of those plasmas.
Surprised they don't have the generic London backdrop on some of those plasmas.
HB
I think because it's the weekend that the overnight shift is 1am to 7am with the next presenter 7am to midday.
Ben was just saying 6:30am because of a programme being in the back hour of the 6am hour
EDIT: Realise Ben tweeted to say that he did an extra hour on world. The overnight shift is to 6am and he did till 7am just to give the maintenance at NBH a little extra time
Ben was just saying 6:30am because of a programme being in the back hour of the 6am hour
EDIT: Realise Ben tweeted to say that he did an extra hour on world. The overnight shift is to 6am and he did till 7am just to give the maintenance at NBH a little extra time
Last edited by HarryB on 23 January 2016 10:34am
WO
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? You can do as many dry runs off air as you like, but unless you trial it live, you're potentially not going to iron out all the gremlins - especially with Millbank being main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
Decamping to a completely different building would suggest that whatever is happening at NBH could potentially disrupt programming wherever it is coming from. E.g. core routers, phone systems, lines in/out of the building, UPSes, fire alarms, electrical distribution, etc.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? You can do as many dry runs off air as you like, but unless you trial it live, you're potentially not going to iron out all the gremlins - especially with Millbank being main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
RN
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? Millbank is the main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
But surely if that was the case, they'd test it at a time when less people were watching, such as a Saturday afternoon on the News Channel, not overnights when the whole world and his wife are watching.
Decamping to a completely different building would suggest that whatever is happening at NBH could potentially disrupt programming wherever it is coming from. E.g. core routers, phone systems, lines in/out of the building, UPSes, fire alarms, electrical distribution, etc.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? Millbank is the main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
But surely if that was the case, they'd test it at a time when less people were watching, such as a Saturday afternoon on the News Channel, not overnights when the whole world and his wife are watching.
GE
Was it BBC International Unit?
If you've got a camera and connectivity, you may as well make some money from it when you're not using it yourself...
thegeek
Founding member
I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this but I had a link and lost it for a page that listed BBC services used for other broadcasters listing various locations of down the line studios and facilities for outside broadcasts. I seem to remember the page mentioning that during Nelson Mandela's funeral they provided uplink facilities for CBS and Sky News.
Was it BBC International Unit?
If you've got a camera and connectivity, you may as well make some money from it when you're not using it yourself...
NG
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? You can do as many dry runs off air as you like, but unless you trial it live, you're potentially not going to iron out all the gremlins - especially with Millbank being main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
They used to do that regularly (once or twice a year) without doing it on-air. You can test the ability to use a DR site without putting it on-air.
My bet is that something building wide is being worked-on. Could be related to the video server infrastructure at NBH (BBC Arabic/Persian aren't yet on the same system?) or possibly some site-wide changes to Mosart-y type stuff? Or the boring stuff like power, networks etc.
noggin
Founding member
Decamping to a completely different building would suggest that whatever is happening at NBH could potentially disrupt programming wherever it is coming from. E.g. core routers, phone systems, lines in/out of the building, UPSes, fire alarms, electrical distribution, etc.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? You can do as many dry runs off air as you like, but unless you trial it live, you're potentially not going to iron out all the gremlins - especially with Millbank being main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
They used to do that regularly (once or twice a year) without doing it on-air. You can test the ability to use a DR site without putting it on-air.
My bet is that something building wide is being worked-on. Could be related to the video server infrastructure at NBH (BBC Arabic/Persian aren't yet on the same system?) or possibly some site-wide changes to Mosart-y type stuff? Or the boring stuff like power, networks etc.
CI
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? Millbank is the main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
But surely if that was the case, they'd test it at a time when less people were watching, such as a Saturday afternoon on the News Channel, not overnights when the whole world and his wife are watching.
You do realise that at every hour, somewhere in the world, it's primetime and a lot of people are watching.
At least overnight in the UK/Europe, there's less staff around, and less studios in use, so that's probably the best time.
Decamping to a completely different building would suggest that whatever is happening at NBH could potentially disrupt programming wherever it is coming from. E.g. core routers, phone systems, lines in/out of the building, UPSes, fire alarms, electrical distribution, etc.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? Millbank is the main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
But surely if that was the case, they'd test it at a time when less people were watching, such as a Saturday afternoon on the News Channel, not overnights when the whole world and his wife are watching.
You do realise that at every hour, somewhere in the world, it's primetime and a lot of people are watching.
At least overnight in the UK/Europe, there's less staff around, and less studios in use, so that's probably the best time.
MI
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? You can do as many dry runs off air as you like, but unless you trial it live, you're potentially not going to iron out all the gremlins - especially with Millbank being main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
They used to do that regularly (once or twice a year) without doing it on-air. You can test the ability to use a DR site without putting it on-air.
My bet is that something building wide is being worked-on. Could be related to the video server infrastructure at NBH (BBC Arabic/Persian aren't yet on the same system?) or possibly some site-wide changes to Mosart-y type stuff? Or the boring stuff like power, networks etc.
I'd have thought less likely to be power as studio D is on a different circuit I thought. I presume it is actually in the Peel Wing part but as you are several floors down you don't realise.
I must say Millbank looks so much better nowadays and whilst you can tell it is a different studio it is still very on brand.
Decamping to a completely different building would suggest that whatever is happening at NBH could potentially disrupt programming wherever it is coming from. E.g. core routers, phone systems, lines in/out of the building, UPSes, fire alarms, electrical distribution, etc.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
We've seen they're quite happy to use D overnight if C is out of use for whatever reason, so whatever work is happening can't be limited to just the one studio.
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? You can do as many dry runs off air as you like, but unless you trial it live, you're potentially not going to iron out all the gremlins - especially with Millbank being main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
They used to do that regularly (once or twice a year) without doing it on-air. You can test the ability to use a DR site without putting it on-air.
My bet is that something building wide is being worked-on. Could be related to the video server infrastructure at NBH (BBC Arabic/Persian aren't yet on the same system?) or possibly some site-wide changes to Mosart-y type stuff? Or the boring stuff like power, networks etc.
I'd have thought less likely to be power as studio D is on a different circuit I thought. I presume it is actually in the Peel Wing part but as you are several floors down you don't realise.
I must say Millbank looks so much better nowadays and whilst you can tell it is a different studio it is still very on brand.
CH
I actually do really like that tight shot. I always wished the graphics were refreshed to have a little more color in them. It was nice on World in N8 when they had a newsroom backdrop and not that many plasma displays to fill, but the white in the NBH studios sometimes looks really repetitive and blank.
Overnights from Millbank:
Pretty tight close up shot to get just the globe as the background
Pretty tight close up shot to get just the globe as the background
I actually do really like that tight shot. I always wished the graphics were refreshed to have a little more color in them. It was nice on World in N8 when they had a newsroom backdrop and not that many plasma displays to fill, but the white in the NBH studios sometimes looks really repetitive and blank.
RK
Was it BBC International Unit?
If you've got a camera and connectivity, you may as well make some money from it when you're not using it yourself...
Thanks a lot.
I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this but I had a link and lost it for a page that listed BBC services used for other broadcasters listing various locations of down the line studios and facilities for outside broadcasts. I seem to remember the page mentioning that during Nelson Mandela's funeral they provided uplink facilities for CBS and Sky News.
Was it BBC International Unit?
If you've got a camera and connectivity, you may as well make some money from it when you're not using it yourself...
Thanks a lot.
RN
But surely if that was the case, they'd test it at a time when less people were watching, such as a Saturday afternoon on the News Channel, not overnights when the whole world and his wife are watching.
You do realise that at every hour, somewhere in the world, it's primetime and a lot of people are watching.
At least overnight in the UK/Europe, there's less staff around, and less studios in use, so that's probably the best time.
OK fair point!
Probably looking into this too deeply, but maybe they were simply testing Millbank's gallery/technical capability for handling main news output on air after its technical refurb? Millbank is the main decamp locaton if, for whatever reason, NBH is knocked completely out of action.
But surely if that was the case, they'd test it at a time when less people were watching, such as a Saturday afternoon on the News Channel, not overnights when the whole world and his wife are watching.
You do realise that at every hour, somewhere in the world, it's primetime and a lot of people are watching.
At least overnight in the UK/Europe, there's less staff around, and less studios in use, so that's probably the best time.
OK fair point!